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Re: 14 yo boy arested in bali

McLovin said:
When you were 14 did your parents know where you were? He's an idiot who made a huge mistake, let's not go down the blame the parents route.
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The kids obviously seriously misguided though? I mean he's 14!! That's what.. Year 9? I barely even knew what marijuana was, let alone would have had the balls or the knowledge to go in search of it in another country at that age. There's gotta be more to it
 
I say the same thing, where were the parents?
This is a minor in another country, not in the local neighbourhood.

I also agree with nomores comments.

Silly silly boy.
 
I have a 14 year old son and he has been to Bali 7 times so far. He has been harrassed by sellers to "buy" stuff off the street and has been grabbed by the arm and dragged into shops on several occassions. Fortunately he has refused to "buy" anything from the streets and will usually walk out of the shops without buying anything and has not got into trouble. Stern but polite is the rule to save your skin.

On several occassions I have seen "beggars" offering gunga and hashish on street corners to the unsuspecting idiots who would contemplate buying the **** off an unknown in broad daylight in full view of everyone.

It could also be a case of this unsuspecting lad not knowing what he was doing and just giving him money to the "beggar/seller" just to get away from him. l have been accosted in Denpasar by a beggar and when I refused to give her money she caused a hell of a scene by screaming that I had hit her and the Police came running. I paid her and the Police to quitely forget the whole thing.

So you see fellow ASFers that there is many different scenarios to play out. Not all 14 year olds are tools. I enjoy my sons company over many adults that I know and especially when in Bali as he has the respect for the law and the culture unlike the pissed out BESAR BODOH AUSSIES that drunkenly walk the streets as they swig their large Bintangs and are abusive to the Balinese. Good look morons.

Now that Rudd is involved and the whole media frenzy has discoloured the water it will be unlikely this poor kids parents will be able to pay the right people to forget about it. Possible that he may be able to get off on a technicality of Indonesian law. The more intense the scrutiny on the matter the more likely he is gonna get a big dose of Indo justice. Just my opinion of course. :cool:
 
trainspotter said:
I have a 14 year old son and he has been to Bali 7 times so far. He has been harrassed by sellers to "buy" stuff off the street and has been grabbed by the arm and dragged into shops on several occassions. Fortunately he has refused to "buy" anything from the streets and will usually walk out of the shops without buying anything and has not got into trouble. Stern but polite is the rule to save your skin.

On several occassions I have seen "beggars" offering gunga and hashish on street corners to the unsuspecting idiots who would contemplate buying the **** off an unknown in broad daylight in full view of everyone.

It could also be a case of this unsuspecting lad not knowing what he was doing and just giving him money to the "beggar/seller" just to get away from him. l have been accosted in Denpasar by a beggar and when I refused to give her money she caused a hell of a scene by screaming that I had hit her and the Police came running. I paid her and the Police to quitely forget the whole thing.

So you see fellow ASFers that there is many different scenarios to play out. Not all 14 year olds are tools. I enjoy my sons company over many adults that I know and especially when in Bali as he has the respect for the law and the culture unlike the pissed out BESAR BODOH AUSSIES that drunkenly walk the streets as they swig their large Bintangs and are abusive to the Balinese. Good look morons.

Now that Rudd is involved and the whole media frenzy has discoloured the water it will be unlikely this poor kids parents will be able to pay the right people to forget about it. Possible that he may be able to get off on a technicality of Indonesian law. The more intense the scrutiny on the matter the more likely he is gonna get a big dose of Indo justice. Just my opinion of course. :cool:
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My bolds all good reasons not to go there. That kind of local culture does not appeal to me.

And it's in the deep tropics.

Might as well go for a holiday in Darwin during the wet.
 
Trainspotter is right, BUT, BUT, what happens when they do a drug test on him to day and it comes back positive, he WILL DO TIME. Hope for him the test come back clean.
 
If they put him in the slammer he will need a protector. Perhaps a seasoned old crim like Schapelle Corby could take him under her wing.
 
drsmith said:
My bolds all good reasons not to go there. That kind of local culture does not appeal to me.

And it's in the deep tropics.

Might as well go for a holiday in Darwin during the wet.
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You would be safer in Bali than a friday night in Mitchell street:D
 
trainspotter said:
I have a 14 year old son and he has been to Bali 7 times so far. He has been harrassed by sellers to "buy" stuff off the street and has been grabbed by the arm and dragged into shops on several occassions. Fortunately he has refused to "buy" anything from the streets and will usually walk out of the shops without buying anything and has not got into trouble. Stern but polite is the rule to save your skin.

On several occassions I have seen "beggars" offering gunga and hashish on street corners to the unsuspecting idiots who would contemplate buying the **** off an unknown in broad daylight in full view of everyone.

It could also be a case of this unsuspecting lad not knowing what he was doing and just giving him money to the "beggar/seller" just to get away from him. l have been accosted in Denpasar by a beggar and when I refused to give her money she caused a hell of a scene by screaming that I had hit her and the Police came running. I paid her and the Police to quitely forget the whole thing.

So you see fellow ASFers that there is many different scenarios to play out. Not all 14 year olds are tools. I enjoy my sons company over many adults that I know and especially when in Bali as he has the respect for the law and the culture unlike the pissed out BESAR BODOH AUSSIES that drunkenly walk the streets as they swig their large Bintangs and are abusive to the Balinese. Good look morons.

Now that Rudd is involved and the whole media frenzy has discoloured the water it will be unlikely this poor kids parents will be able to pay the right people to forget about it. Possible that he may be able to get off on a technicality of Indonesian law. The more intense the scrutiny on the matter the more likely he is gonna get a big dose of Indo justice. Just my opinion of course. :cool:
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The end of footy season should see Bali turn into a place you don't want to be.
 
drsmith said:
My bolds all good reasons not to go there. That kind of local culture does not appeal to me.

And it's in the deep tropics.

Might as well go for a holiday in Darwin during the wet.
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Too true drsmith. This is not the Balinese way. Usually it is the Javanese that are the agressors but fortunately/unfortunately graft and corruption is the way to get things done in Indonesia. I do not believe it is their culture but has been introduced to them by many years of tourists plundering their community.

I would feel safer in Bali at midnight then I would in the Smith Street mall in Darwin. Been to both. Give me Bali any time.
 
LostMyShirt said:
I am not talking about the validity of international laws; merely the lack of compassion for a 14 year old by so many people who would not like to be in this persons shoes. He is 14, made a subject of interest over something that is absolutely insignificant - and in turn he is now in the running to a place where the human rights is unheard of. The fact that they refuse to extradite is an insult.

What irks me the most though, is how so many attempt to pass it off as a life lesson. This is not one of those times where the display of diplomacy amongst opinion is considerd honourable. The kids 14 he wanted to smoke a joint, and you want the potantial exposure to a hell to maintain your diplomatic manner? If it were you going to hell for a $20 bag, you would not be pleased - no sir.
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More than one aspect.

1st its every parents night mare whether the kid is good bad or what ever in our culture the whole trip is a shocker and yes we all understand that and feel that.

But you have to deal with reality in Indonesia and that is that he will likely do time in jail with adults regardless of how it came about.

Before every one gets on their high horses about Indo just remember we have incarcerated 50 to 70 Indonesians juveniles here in Australia and placed them into adult jails.


No one is screaming for their injustice.
 
trainspotter said:
I would feel safer in Bali at midnight then I would in the Smith Street mall in Darwin.
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Is greasy Sam's still going up the other end at the corner of Daly Street ?

Late one night there many years ago, an argument over a dim sim ended with one gentleman unconscious on the floor. This while I waiting patiently for a toasted ham, cheese and tomato sandwich. Definately not the place for a 14yo at that time of night.
 
IFocus said:
More than one aspect.

1st its every parents night mare whether the kid is good bad or what ever in our culture the whole trip is a shocker and yes we all understand that and feel that.

But you have to deal with reality in Indonesia and that is that he will likely do time in jail with adults regardless of how it came about.

Before every one gets on their high horses about Indo just remember we have incarcerated 50 to 70 Indonesians juveniles here in Australia and placed them into adult jails.


No one is screaming for their injustice.
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I did not know that.

Why would you put 14 year olds in a jail with Adults? Were they muderers or terrorists or something?

That isn't right.
 
Re: 14 yo boy arested in bali

At 14, the lad needs the modern punishment equivalent of a good swift kick up the bum and/or a longer term punishment, such as grounding to help him reflect.

He does not need his life ruined by being sent to jail. If there are deeper problems, that possibly raises issues about the parenting, but it's difficult to judge without knowing all the facts.
 
Re: 14 yo boy arested in bali

drsmith said:
At 14, the lad needs the modern punishment equivalent of a good swift kick up the bum and/or a longer term punishment, such as grounding to help him reflect.

He does not need his life ruined by being sent to jail. If there are deeper problems, that possibly raises issues about the parenting, but it's difficult to judge without knowing all the facts.
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Good one doc.

gg
 
Re: 14 yo boy arested in bali

drsmith said:
He does not need his life ruined by being sent to jail. If there are deeper problems, that possibly raises issues about the parenting, but it's difficult to judge without knowing all the facts.
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Yes, it seems strange that his parents would allow him to roam free, with his 13 year old mate, in the Kuta strip with an unlimited supply of money to buy massages and pot, and whatever else takes their fancy.

These are massage parlour girls, some as young as the boys, who solicit on the street, and take their customers to their parlour. The girls get only a fraction of what the customer pays.

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Re: 14 yo boy arested in bali

Calliope said:
Yes, it seems strange that his parents would allow him to roam free, with his 13 year old mate, in the Kuta strip with an unlimited supply of money to buy massages and pot, and whatever else takes their fancy.

These are massage parlour girls, some as young as the boys, who solicit on the street, and take their customers to their parlour. The girls get only a fraction of what the customer pays.

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There easy to spot they are the ones dressed in curtain material.
 
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