Tony Abbott for PM

[Ves]

Now, I wouldn't disagree that learning another language is a useful and interesting thing for people to do, but why on earth would you make this the sole policy comment in an otherwise purely political speech?

Julia, by now it should be pretty clear, that under the current system which is dominated by media focus on personality over any real ideas (see: farce) that rhetoric is the most effective way to get the masses on your side. It's a popularity contest not an intellectual debate of ideas.

Honestly, I may not be that old, and I may be showing my relative inexperience to other posters, but the last few years have been pretty heavy with rhetoric and over-dramatised scandals (and the media "scrutiny" that goes with it). Perhaps it is just more noticable because the internet allows more people access to news feeds 24/7.

 

[Eager]

I am extremely distressed by the adverse comments both Eager and So_Cynical have made about Tony Abbott's budget in reply speech. They are partisan replies unfitting of a public forum such as ASF.

Don't be distressed. This is only an internet forum after all, and is not important.

Were the words I quoted from the actual budget in reply speech? No idea, because I didn't see it.

Don't shoot the messenger!

 

[drsmith]

I thought his speech was quite good.

Some overall vision and he got stuck into Labor's failings, but not much meat on the bones. That's to be expected at this stage of the electoral cycle.

 

[Eager]

LOL

May I remind everyone here of my recently completed, peer reviewed PhD thesis "The Impossibility of Objective Leftist Thought"?

Several brains of leftists were removed, dissected and studied for signs of objectivity.

None was found.

Due to time constraints, the brains could not be properly reassembled and enerviated, the bits just shoved back into the cavity and sewn up. Remarkably, there was no discernible difference in thought process, post procedure.

Several features were however found in the leftist brain which serves to differentiate them from centrist/right brain which have proven to be hard wired, IOW they seem to be incapable of changing, even when presented with unequivocal empirical evidence.

Inter alia:
A delusion regard of their own intelligence
Monumental hypocrisy
Prone to regarding propaganda as fact
A strong tendency towards Catastrophilia
An irrepressible jealousy of success
Love of bogun Prime Ministers

GG

In light of my findings, to quote from that epic tome of old "... forgive them; for they know not what they do."

:

Brags about his thesis (consisting of faeces?) which was reviewed by a similarly insular audience, but can't spell a 5-letter word.

BAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[IFocus]

I thought his speech was quite good.

Some overall vision and he got stuck into Labor's failings, but not much meat on the bones. That's to be expected at this stage of the electoral cycle.

Thought it was one of the most inept and shallow reply's to the budget that I can remember.

 

[drsmith]

Eager,

I know you'll like to watch it again, so, just for you........

 

[Eager]

^ Didn't watch the budget itself either, so I'm not interested in that.

But thanks for thinking of me.

 

[drsmith]

^ Didn't watch the budget itself either, so I'm not interested in that.

But thanks for thinking of me.

You might yet be a convert.

If you want to quote from it, ...........................

I cannot find a link, but it was reported in the conservative press today that Abbott, in his response to the Family School Bonus announced in the Budget, said that the money was a carbon tax sweetener.

 

[Julia]

Julia, by now it should be pretty clear, that under the current system which is dominated by media focus on personality over any real ideas (see: farce) that rhetoric is the most effective way to get the masses on your side. It's a popularity contest not an intellectual debate of ideas.

Honestly, I may not be that old, and I may be showing my relative inexperience to other posters, but the last few years have been pretty heavy with rhetoric and over-dramatised scandals (and the media "scrutiny" that goes with it). Perhaps it is just more noticable because the internet allows more people access to news feeds 24/7.

Ah, so true, Ves. Silly of me to expect otherwise.

Brags about his thesis (consisting of faeces?) which was reviewed by a similarly insular audience, but can't spell a 5-letter word.

BAHAHAHAHAHA!

Um, Eager, I wouldn't be so quick to criticise the spelling of other posters if I were you.
I have - in my response to your latest post 3356 on "The Gillard Government" thread, corrected your spelling of 'privileged'.
I had no intention of making an issue of it and embarrassing you, but if you're going to have a go at someone else over spelling, then it seems only fair that your own deficiencies are highlighted.

 

[IFocus]

Simple question everyone avoids including Abbott during the budget reply where is the $50 bil coming from?

 

[nulla nulla]

Brags about his thesis (consisting of faeces?) which was reviewed by a similarly insular audience, but can't spell a 5-letter word.

BAHAHAHAHAHA!

You didn't allow for the Canadian/Kiwi influence on his accent. Play nice.

 

[Eager]

Um, Eager, I wouldn't be so quick to criticise the spelling of other posters if I were you.
I have - in my response to your latest post 3356 on "The Gillard Government" thread, corrected your spelling of 'privileged'.
I had no intention of making an issue of it and embarrassing you, but if you're going to have a go at someone else over spelling, then it seems only fair that your own deficiencies are highlighted.

Nahhh that's fine, at least privvellejed is a big word, and you weren't trying to bring a braggart back down to earth like I was.

 

[sails]

Simple question everyone avoids including Abbott during the budget reply where is the $50 bil coming from?

lol IF - most of Australia is initially much too focused on getting rid of this government.

The $50 bil is small bickies compared to the spendathons of this current government - sadly for Australia.

Isn't Swan looking to increase our debt ceiling by $50 bil - that's on top of the already existing $250 bil which was increased only a few months ago.

No politician will be perfect, but at this stage, even Abbott is a better alternative to the seeming scary mismanagement of this country's finances.

It seems that only about 27% share your concerns...

 

[noco]

Tony Abbott does not have to say or do anything and he will still become the next Prime Minister sooner rather than later while these Labor goons keep stuffing things up.

 

[wayneL]

Nahhh that's fine, at least privvellejed is a big word, and you weren't trying to bring a braggart back down to earth like I was.

Braggart?

Bring me back down to Earth? You overestimate yourself.

 

[IFocus]

lol IF - most of Australia is initially much too focused on getting rid of this government.

The $50 bil is small bickies compared to the spendathons of this current government - sadly for Australia.

Isn't Swan looking to increase our debt ceiling by $50 bil - that's on top of the already existing $250 bil which was increased only a few months ago.

No politician will be perfect, but at this stage, even Abbott is a better alternative to the seeming scary mismanagement of this country's finances.

It seems that only about 27% share your concerns...

Abbott is going to break your heart 1st then your pocket 2nd.

 

[sails]

Abbott is going to break your heart 1st then your pocket 2nd.

haha - what about Gillard's broken promises????

What about Gillard's carbon tax and other unwanted costly policies that are ripping money from Aussie workers?

Better check the elephant in your own back yard before posting such unsubstantiated nonsense!!!

I never said Abbott is perfect, but at least the libs come with some experience in running this country and their track record is way in front of this government. Gillard and Swan have had no such experience and yet is forcing HER agendas down our throats even though her clear lack of experience in economics and managing the country's finances. It is almost childilike, imo.

By comparison, Abbott offers better and more stable government than what we have now.

And, for the record, I never said and don't expect Abbott to be perfect. Show me any human that is...lol. It's just that some are better than others...

It actually astounds me that you can keep batting for this government...

 

[MrBurns]

Abbott is going to break your heart 1st then your pocket 2nd.

Sorry Gillard has that one taken care of.

 

[IFocus]

haha - what about Gillard's broken promises????

What about Gillard's carbon tax and other unwanted costly policies that are ripping money from Aussie workers?

Better check the elephant in your own back yard before posting such unsubstantiated nonsense!!!

I never said Abbott is perfect, but at least the libs come with some experience in running this country and their track record is way in front of this government. Gillard and Swan have had no such experience and yet is forcing HER agendas down our throats even though her clear lack of experience in economics and managing the country's finances. It is almost childilike, imo.

By comparison, Abbott offers better and more stable government than what we have now.

And, for the record, I never said and don't expect Abbott to be perfect. Show me any human that is...lol. It's just that some are better than others...

It actually astounds me that you can keep batting for this government...

Who has experience running the country which libs Bronwyn Bishop?

A group of 2nd string of inept ministers from the Howard government.

Howard never had low employment, low interest rates, low inflation he had a world economy that was booming nothing more.

 

[StumpyPhantom]

Abbott is going to break your heart 1st then your pocket 2nd.

That's what the Labor/Green supporters just don't get. This isn't about breaking hearts.

The one resolved emotional/subjective issue of the last 5 years was the Apology to the Stolen Generation. In the last 15 years, it was the Republic Movement.

The "Action on Climate Change", "Clean Energy Future" is not a 'break your heart' issue. It's one in the economic/political realm.

And if you think Abbott's going to break your hearts, are you conveniently ignoring Gillard's COLD BLOODED decision to send asylum-seekers to Malaysia (and don't repeat this crap about it saving lives)?

And so far as breaking your pockets is concerned, that's absolute rubbish too. Let's just make our starting point something other than 'robbing Peter to pay Paul' shall we? No-one who is well off begrudges helping out those less fortunate. It's when you start enacting the socialist dream of controlling/taxing all the means of production to within an inch of its life that you start to eradicate our common future.

And judging by the latest reaction to the budget. Those low and middle income beneficiaries of the budget are very much in 'take the money and run' mode, so that the carbon tax will be very much back on their radar cum 1 July.