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Julia said:
I know all that. My point is that if Newman fails to win Ashgrove but the LNP wins the election, we have no idea who is going to be Premier!!
That is hardly a satisfactory state of affairs is it? I think they could lose votes on the basis of such a shoddy non-answer.
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Julia
Tim Nicholl was on the news tonight. First time I have seen him there.
I think he was queried by media on your exact comment.
His answer was along the lines, "that nothing is clear cut in politics."
Campbell Newman is the one campaigning as Premier. I cannot see a problem with that until the votes have been counted.
At this point follow the bookies.
joea
 
joea said:
Tim Nicholl was on the news tonight. First time I have seen him there.
I think he was queried by media on your exact comment.
His answer was along the lines, "that nothing is clear cut in politics."
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I doubt I'd be the only voter who would find that a completely unsatisfactory response.
 
Julia said:
I know all that. My point is that if Newman fails to win Ashgrove but the LNP wins the election, we have no idea who is going to be Premier!!
That is hardly a satisfactory state of affairs is it? I think they could lose votes on the basis of such a shoddy non-answer.
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This is the case with every election, state or federal. There is no guarantee that the leader of the party that wins will themselves win their seat.

I'm genuinely perplexed that people no longer seem to understand the Westminster parliamentary system. It's the best system of democracy in the world.
 
There seems to be a lot of conjecture over just one poll. Although these professional polls usually get it close, they can sometimes be out. Would be more interesting if other pollsters get the same result, then there might be something to worry about.

And, if we don't vote for LNP or someone who will definitely NOT allow their preferences to go to labor, it is likely a vote for labor.


This from CentreBet on Qld election - and greens are not faring well:

Ashgrove - Winning Candidate
NEWMAN, Campbell (LNP) 1.22
JONES, Kate (ALP) 3.90
ANY OTHER CANDIDATE 41.00

Barron River - Winning Candidate
TROUT, Michael (LNP) 1.08
WETTENHALL, Steve (ALP) 6.60
ANY OTHER CANDIDATE 21.00

Broadwater - Winning Candidate
BARTON, Verity (LNP) 1.25
CROFT, Peta-Kaye (ALP) 4.25
ANY OTHER CANDIDATE 8.00

Chatsworth - Winning Candidate
MINNIKIN, Steve (LNP) 1.04
KILBURN, Steve (ALP) 8.60
ANY OTHER CANDIDATE 29.00

Everton - Winning Candidate
MANDER, Tim (LNP) 1.06
WATT, Murray (ALP) 7.50
ANY OTHER CANDIDATE 29.00

Ferny Gove - Winning Candidate
SHUTTLEWORTH, Dale (LNP) 1.10
WILSON, Geoff (ALP) 6.00
NIELSEN, Howard (GRN) 21.00

Kallangur - Winning Candidate
RUTHENBERG, Trevor (LNP) 1.08
O'NEILL, Mary-Anne (ALP) 6.60
ANY OTHER CANDIDATE 15.00

Mt Coot-tha - Winning Candidate
RICE, Saxon (LNP) 1.17
FRASER, Andrew (ALP) 4.60
STONE, Adam (GRN) 21.00
WATERMAN, Margaret (KAP) 51.00

Pine Rivers - Winning Candidate
HOLSWICH, Seath (LNP) 1.10
BULMAN, Patrick (ALP) 6.00
ANY OTHER CANDIDATE 21.00

Springwood - Winning Candidate
GRANT, John (LNP) 1.06
STONE, Barbara (ALP) 7.50
COTTER, Neil (GRN) 26.00
ANY OTHER CANDIDATE 34.00

Stretton - Winning Candidate
OSTAPOVITCH, Freya (LNP) 1.23
PEGG, Duncan (ALP) 3.80
FORDE, David (IND) 15.00
SADLER, Brian (GRN) 34.00

Toowoomba North - Winning Candidate
WATTS, Trevor (LNP) 1.10
SHINE, Kerry (ALP) 6.00
ANY OTHER CANDIDATE 34.00

(and it looks like Peta Kaye Croft in our electorate is not looking good. Never seem to see or hear from her until election time)
 
tinhat said:
This is the case with every election, state or federal. There is no guarantee that the leader of the party that wins will themselves win their seat.

I'm genuinely perplexed that people no longer seem to understand the Westminster parliamentary system. It's the best system of democracy in the world.
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Exactly. In the 2007 federal election no one was hassling John Howard on who would be the leader if he lost.

It seems that another state LNP candidate is under a cloud for starting a pr0n site. Being a wowser party puts the LNP at a disadvantage . In the Labor selections, if the candidate has a union backgound his character is not considered. It wouldn't matter if he was a pr0n star or used union funds to take his mates to brothels , he would still be selected.
 
Calliope said:
Exactly. In the 2007 federal election no one was hassling John Howard on who would be the leader if he lost.

It seems that another state LNP candidate is under a cloud for starting a pr0n site.
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Yes from ABC - the LNP has already had to sack two candidates for the nearby Gold Coast seat of Broadwater - one over a drink-driving charge and the other for attending a swingers party.

The offences don't seem to be that sackable. The pr0n site one in particular, he just provided the website backbone, he didn't run it or appear in it. I would have thought that would be considered entrepreneurial.

Still better out than in.

Maybe they will put in a small business fish and chip owner instead!
 
The LNP has just decided to retain the pr0n site guy. Someone is showing a bit of maturity. Bligh says he should be sacked, especially as it is Women's Day.:screwy:
 
tinhat said:
This is the case with every election, state or federal. There is no guarantee that the leader of the party that wins will themselves win their seat.

I'm genuinely perplexed that people no longer seem to understand the Westminster parliamentary system. It's the best system of democracy in the world.
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Apologies for my ignorance, tinhat.

My point, which I don't seem to have made clear, is that it's just not a 'good look' for the LNP to be so vague about who will be leader if Newman fails to win Ashgrove. The local labor member is apparently very popular and ahead in the latest poll.

Whether it reflects reality or not, many people vote in both state and federal elections for the leader It doesn't augur well for their capacity to provide answers when asked the quite obvious questions of "what if Newman fails to take the seat?". They keep saying "if we don't win Ashgrove, we will not win the election".
Not necessarily so.

I will be voting LNP, despite the fact that I have zero time for the incompetent, lazy, hopeless candidate in my area and everyone I know will be doing likewise.
This election imo is - like most elections - much more about getting rid of the Bligh government than a demonstration of any great faith in the LNP.
 
Bligh is continually whining about Newman's "vested interests."
This letter in The Oz yesterday puts things in perspective;

'The best resourced vested interests in the country is a government trying to get itself re-elected."
 
The Courier Mail's gloating headline

CAN- DO FACES DEFEAT

CAMPBELL Newman is set to lose in his bid to win the seat of Ashgrove - plunging Queensland politics into unprecedented territory.

An exclusive Galaxy Poll conducted for The Courier-Mail reveals Labor incumbent Kate Jones has broken away from Mr Newman in the must-win seat just two weeks out from the election.

She now has a three point lead in the two-party preferred race.

The most likely result is that the LNP will claim an overwhelming win yet their leader won't join them in the new Parliament.

That poses serious questions for the state and sets the scene for a fascinating run to March 24.

Responding to the poll on Saturday morning, Mr Newman would not say who he wanted to replace him as leader should he fail to win a seat, saying it would not be up to him.

According to the Galaxy Poll of 800 voters in the Ashgrove electorate, Mr Newman and Ms Jones are neck-and-neck on primary support at 45 per cent each.

Ms Jones is most popular among female voters while Mr Newman is predominantly supported by men.

Based on the distribution of preferences at the last election, Ms Jones would win on a two-party preferred basis 51.5 per cent to 48.5 per cent.
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http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ding-to-new-poll/story-fnbt5t29-1226295602992
 
Campbell $1.42
Kate $2.30

13 days to go.

Big day today. Bligh sprouting her message(i.e. Labor message in disguise)
Newman coming clean.
If anybody wants a dose of bulls##t baffles brains today, stay tuned to the TV.
joea
 
joea said:
Campbell $1.42
Kate $2.30

13 days to go.

Big day today. Bligh sprouting her message(i.e. Labor message in disguise)
Newman coming clean.
If anybody wants a dose of bulls##t baffles brains today, stay tuned to the TV.
joea
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Who will be leader of the Labor Party if Anna loses her seat?

Make sure you read the comments attached to this link because the above question is being asked over and over again.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ention-centre/comments-fnbt5t29-1226296183449
 
noco said:
Who will be leader of the Labor Party if Anna loses her seat?

Make sure you read the comments attached to this link because the above question is being asked over and over again.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ention-centre/comments-fnbt5t29-1226296183449
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Yes. I liked this one;

Matt of Brisbane Posted at 12:23 PM Today

I wouldn't care if a blind monkey was the leader of the LNP. It's still better then a Labour govt.
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And this one;

Bear Posted at 12:19 PM Today

I WOULD PREFER TO TAKE MY CHANCE WITH THE LUCKY DIP THAN THE DIP STICKS WE HAVE NOW.
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It beats the hell out of me why someone from the LNP have not mentioned the cosy job her husband, what's his name, I think it is Greg Withers.

He is departmental head of the state government climate change.

I think his salary is around $185,000. I wonder how he got that job without some of Anna's influence.
 
noco said:
It beats the hell out of me why someone from the LNP have not mentioned the cosy job her husband, what's his name, I think it is Greg Withers.

He is departmental head of the state government climate change.

I think his salary is around $185,000. I wonder how he got that job without some of Anna's influence.
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Yes, exactly what I've been thinking as I've seen all the mud thrown at Newman and his wife. Not a word, afaik, has been spoken about Mr Withers' sinecure.
Mr Newman seems to be missing an opportunity here which makes one wonder about his political nous.
 
noco said:
It beats the hell out of me why someone from the LNP have not mentioned the cosy job her husband, what's his name, I think it is Greg Withers.

He is departmental head of the state government climate change.

I think his salary is around $185,000. I wonder how he got that job without some of Anna's influence.
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Correction on Greg Withers salary. Make that $220,000. The department he now heads was created by Anna Bligh a month after she became Premier.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...n-11th-hour-deal/story-fnbsqt8f-1226267174232
 
noco said:
Correction on Greg Withers salary. Make that $220,000. The department he now heads was created by Anna Bligh a month after she became Premier.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...n-11th-hour-deal/story-fnbsqt8f-1226267174232
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Newman did give Withers a serve at the LNP state conference last year;

Mr Newman said DERM (Department of Environment and Resource Management) would come under a powerful spotlight and be swiftly re-engineered if he won government.

"It's a department without true leadership, a department that is more about ideology than science," he said. "It's more about politics than outcomes."

He also singled out Ms Bligh's husband, Greg Withers, assistant director-general in the Office of Climate Change in DERM, for special mention.

"Let's face it, when you have a climate change policy in Queensland decided by the Premier's husband, not science, then you know there's a problem," Mr Newman said.

Environment Minister Vicky Darling hit back immediately, saying Mr Newman was showing his true colours.

"Campbell Newman's promise to wreck one of the state's most important regulators should send shivers down the spine of any Queenslander who values the protection of our precious environment and natural resources," she said.

With more than 5600 public servants, DERM is now one of Australia's largest bureaucracies, dwarfing even the number of federal public servants assigned to green schemes (2254).
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(My bolds)

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...and-greg-withers/story-e6freoof-1226096324275
 
This bloke Newman is up to his armpits in corruption, NO developer EVER donates that much for nothing.

Politics attracts some low life creeps doesn't it.:mad:
 
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