14 year old boy arrested in Bali

[pilots]

Re: 14 yo boy arested in bali

Yes, it seems strange that his parents would allow him to roam free, with his 13 year old mate, in the Kuta strip with an unlimited supply of money to buy massages and pot, and whatever else takes their fancy.

These are massage parlour girls, some as young as the boys, who solicit on the street, and take their customers to their parlour. The girls get only a fraction of what the customer pays.

Did you know that the girls in that photo are all over 30 years old, one looks to be over 40.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Re: 14 yo boy arested in bali

Did you know that the girls in that photo are all over 30 years old, one looks to be over 40.

Did you know the one second from the left with the muscled arm is a bloke. Or is it the one on the far left.

 

[Calliope]

How many Indonesian teenagers would we swap for "our little bloke?"

The Australian Lawyers Alliance argued attempts by the government to free the boy were hypocritical.

''How can we be critical of Indonesia's detention of a 14-year-old Australian boy when we have Indonesian children of the same age locked away in detention centres, without charge for a year or more here?'' the alliance's president, Greg Barns, said.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/teen-ar...about-drugs-20111008-1lew3.html#ixzz1aGvJ5z2w

 

[Smurf1976]

Re: 14 yo boy arested in bali

At 14, the lad needs the modern punishment equivalent of a good swift kick up the bum and/or a longer term punishment, such as grounding to help him reflect.

He does not need his life ruined by being sent to jail. If there are deeper problems, that possibly raises issues about the parenting, but it's difficult to judge without knowing all the facts.

Agreed, though I'd say that the "modern punishment equivalent" ought to still be literally a damn good kick up the bum.

The nanny state has a lot to answer for, including that many now consider compliance with the law to be optional. Witness all the trouble on the streets on Friday and Saturday night if you want an example of what today's young people think of the law (and how widespread drug use really is).

 

[Tink]

Going by the reports, this family has been to Bali quite a few times, so its nothing new to this boy.

We have just had, how many years of Corby, dont these people think it will happen to them? Unbelievable.

Says alot doesnt it.

 

[Calliope]

Going by the reports, this family has been to Bali quite a few times, so its nothing new to this boy.

We have just had, how many years of Corby, dont these people think it will happen to them? Unbelievable.

Says alot doesnt it.

This nameless, faceless kid is now a celebrity. He has been visited three days in a row by the Ambassador, he has Rudd's full support, he talks to Gillard on the phone, he has a private room and unlimited takeaways.

The agents will be circling for rights to his story about his suffering in confinement.

 

[Tink]

Hopes are rising that an Australian teenager arrested for drug possession in Bali will avoid a jail term and be ordered instead to undergo rehabilitation.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/br...tion-of-bali-boy/story-e6frf7jx-1226163337671

His friend that was with him had a quick exit back to Australia the following morning, I wonder if they will be back.

Hopefully they have learnt something from this ordeal.

 

[tech/a]

From face book evidently the kid thinks he's bullet proof.
Set up or not---loose lips sink ships.
Some one needs to take away his I pad---NOW!

 

[JTLP]

From face book evidently the kid thinks he's bullet proof.
Set up or not---loose lips sink ships.
Some one needs to take away his I pad---NOW!

x2. The kids a goose...probably locking him up would do some good.

Apparently he's tried the stuff at 12 years old? What a respectful, upstanding young member of the community this teen must be. I'd prefer if we had more heavy handed approaches to drugs here - obviously not 12 years in jail for minor possession - but something better than a slap on the wrist.

 

[drsmith]

Re: 14 yo boy arested in bali

Agreed, though I'd say that the "modern punishment equivalent" ought to still be literally a damn good kick up the bum.

Left foot instead of right came to mind, but I didn't want it to sound like (nor do I advocate) physical violence against minors.

x2. The kids a goose...probably locking him up would do some good.

Apparently he's tried the stuff at 12 years old?

Lock up the parents.

What do they think he is ?, an adult ??

I save my right foot for them.

 

[trainspotter]

Dean Laidley AKA "The Junk Yard Dog" doesn't like Bali either !!!

UPDATE 9.35am: DEAN Laidley says a "horrifying" gang attack on his family in a Bali nightclub was most likely a setup.

Laidley was hit over the head with a bottle by security staff and has stitches, his son Kane has a broken jaw, and several other family members have severe facial injuries, including women.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/mo...n-family-holiday/story-fn7x8me2-1226163377540


Ummmmmmm "gang attack" ..... NOPE .... it was the BOUNCERS of the nightclub who were throwing you out for being drunk and disorderly as you were pushing people over on the dance floor. Dean Laidley hit his head on the pavement when they threw him outside. LOLOL

Back to the 14 year old boy story ..... kid is guilty and got caught ........ period.

 

[joea]

Hi.
What interests me is how we are looking after this "poor boy". The media is alive with it.

However I have seen only one media piece on the availability of drugs in that area.
Within a few minutes a guy was approached and filmed.
Now I will bet you a "pound to a penny", that this particular film of exposure will be squashed until its all over or the "kid" is back in Australia.
Then Gillard and Rudd will crawl back under a rock.

If they had any "guts" they would push the exposure of drugs in Bali. Then "air" the film on our networks. Warning Australians of the situation.
After all a 8 sec bit of a film shut down our live cattle export trade, and people lost jobs and money, but a film on our people being sold drugs will probably be squashed.

The Bali pushers and Bali police are involved in this stuff up to their neck.
The pusher in question would be operating again in minutes.
I smell a rat. It is very appropiate that a situation is going to be defused in Bali which has Gillard and Rudd being the benefiiciary"s.

Time to bring back the thread 'Wake up Australia".

joea

 

[tech/a]

Frankly I and friends and family keep well clear of Bali.
there are far better destinations than here.
15 yrs ago I was approached twice with drug offers.
My kids have been approached many many times in their 3 visits.

The scary part is they tell me that they know of cases where they have had friends tell of stories where drugs have been planted by some in luggage---police called and busted with money changing hands before they leave.

Ive seen corruption (not drug related) in police in Bali.

Not a destination Id recommend.

 

[Calliope]

In the days immediately after the Bali bombings, Malaysian writer Rehman Rashid provided a valuable, if extreme, insight into how some in South East Asia view the behaviour of some Australians on holidays. (Financial Review 15 Oct 2003)

"Yes,I knew the Sari Club', he wrote in a piece that would have struggled at the time to find a spot in most Australian newspapers. "Filthy place. Reeking of beer and sweat; the air thick with smoke and jagged with strine; packed out and heaving into the night at the scummy end of the Legian-Kota strip, down past the Gado-Gado, Hard Rock and Peanut

"Everybody knew the Sari Club. It had been there about 15 years, sopping up the dregs of the Kuta night, where the carousing begins in the early evenings at the chichi Legian end of the strip, then cascades down the drag in seven waterfalls of deepening drunkeness to debouch onto Kuta Beach and sprawl snoring at the dawn, or sink into the strip's last sump, the Sari Club.

"It was well-known. If you couldn't score anywhere else, you could score at the Sari Club. To that rickety firetrap would lurch the last of the night's purblind drunken foreigners."

And now they are taking their teenage children there and letting them run uncontrolled to learn the ropes as "a rite of passage.'

 

[joea]

Hi.
I do declare Rudd must be reading this thread.
He has come out of hiding again, to "go into batt" for Iranian actress Marziek Vafamehr.
She is in jail and may recieve 90 lashes for her role in a South Australian production,
"My Tehran for Sale".
Go Kevin as this woman, no doubt does needs your help.
joea

 

[McLovin]

Apparently he's tried the stuff at 12 years old? What a respectful, upstanding young member of the community this teen must be. I'd prefer if we had more heavy handed approaches to drugs here - obviously not 12 years in jail for minor possession - but something better than a slap on the wrist.

Why? I'd rather my tax dollars actually contributed to something useful than busting teens with an 8 ball of weed on them. The overwhelming majority of people who do drugs lead otherwise normal productive lives.

Don't get me started on the sniffer dogs in pubs and on public transport either.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Has anyone experienced the police in Bali? I arrived for departure at Denpasar airport and as I approached the turnstiles one of two officers to my right approached me and asked for a cigarette. I said "nah don't have any" in which he grinned and walked back to the other officer. D'head.

 

[JTLP]

Why? I'd rather my tax dollars actually contributed to something useful than busting teens with an 8 ball of weed on them. The overwhelming majority of people who do drugs lead otherwise normal productive lives.

Don't get me started on the sniffer dogs in pubs and on public transport either.

Drug related crime? Drugs ruin lives? Have you not seen cases recently where people say they were under the influence of drugs? Sheesh.

Mate if you're happy with some try hard young 16 year old shivving you for 20 bucks to buy some weed then be my guest...i'd rather he get thrown in the slammer for a bit of home cooking from a tattoo laden/moustache wearing bikie. That'll treat him nicely.

 

[Tink]

Have to agree there JTLP, Mental Health is bursting at the seams, and most is drug related.

 

[McLovin]

Drug related crime? Drugs ruin lives? Have you not seen cases recently where people say they were under the influence of drugs? Sheesh.

And? Alcohol causes plenty of crime and ruins plenty of lives. Should it be banned too?

- Risky or high risk alcohol consumption caused the death of 32,696 Australians aged 15 and older in the 10 years from 1996 to 2005, and 813,072 Australians were hospitalised due to alcohol-caused injury and disease over the same period.[1]
- Alcohol-related crime is estimated to cost Australia AU$1.7b with AU$750m alone spent on policing.

- Research by the Bureau of Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Economics on road crash costs in Australia found that alcohol is involved in more than 32% of road trauma deaths.[9]
- The cost of road traffic crashes in Australia has been estimated to be $15 billion per year, with total human costs totalling $8.4 billion per yea. Long term care of people seriously injured has been estimated at $2 billion per year, with the average cost of a serious injury crash being approximately $408,000.

-Over five million Australians have been affected by alcohol-related violence, including 2.6 million who have been direct victims of such violent incidences

If it was legalised you'd also remove a lot of the trafficking crime. And my tax dollars wouldn't be wasted on cosmetic police operations that actually do sweet FA to prevent drug use. How many "big" cocaine or ecstacy busts are shown on the nightly news and yet despite that the street price of those drugs hasn't changed.

Mate if you're happy with some try hard young 16 year old shivving you for 20 bucks to buy some weed then be my guest...i'd rather he get thrown in the slammer for a bit of home cooking from a tattoo laden/moustache wearing bikie. That'll treat him nicely.

What about if he's shivving you for 20 bucks to buy a pack of cigarettes or booze, ok then?