What are we teaching our children?

[drsmith]

Re: What are we teaching our children ?

Just like evolution is not a fact, right?

Science bad! Must keep children ignorant! Quick, hide them in the church basement!

I didn't see Neanderthal, Australopithecus or Heidelbergensis in that spelling list.

 

[Starcraftmazter]

Re: What are we teaching our children ?

I didn't see Neanderthal, Australopithecus or Heidelbergensis in that spelling list.

Without any bias, I suggest they are genuinely significantly harder to spell (and pronounce) then the words relating to global warming.

 

[drsmith]

Re: What are we teaching our children ?

Without any bias, I suggest they are genuinely significantly harder to spell (and pronounce) then the words relating to global warming.

At least you admit they are related to global warming.

Paranoia is therefore off the list.

 

[trainspotter]

Is it though? I am not so sure. Certainly not with these sorts of attitudes, and not with people thinking that global warming is somehow "fake". Before anything can be done there must be very strong will among people to make very serious sacrifices in order to address the big problems. This will not occur without adequate education.

Global warming will bring death, injury and destruction, this is not an exaggeration in the slightest.

Man ... are you some part of a lunatic fringe? You cannot be serious? You do know that rubbish tips create methane which is a far deadlier pollutant than CO2 right? Would it not be better to educate children to recycle thus reducing pollution? Are they driving a car (which petrol is not taxed so I can drive all I like) Are they managing to pay the electricity bills or buying flouro lights? Are these kids going out there with a monster smoke stack and throwing CO2 willy nilly into the atmosphere? These are CHILDREN for CHRISSAKE.

WTF are you on about?

Look at the emotive words you use. "Very strong will, very serious sacrifices, big problems, death, injury and destruction."

You have been indoctrinated by some Green, bitter and twisted soup Nazi by the sound of it. Get a grip there young fella. Our kids DO NOT need this sort of schooling.

 

[Starcraftmazter]

At least you admit they are related to global warming.

Paranoia is therefore off the list.

20 isn't, the rest could be said to be related to global warming, as well as a whole range of environmental, economic and other issues. I don't see any problem with this, which is why I think anyone who does is paranoid.

Would it not be better to educate children to recycle thus reducing pollution?

Well it's not overly hard; does it really require any education? You may as well educate children how to turn on a light bulb?

You have been indoctrinated by some Green, bitter and twisted soup Nazi by the sound of it. Get a grip there young fella. Our kids DO NOT need this sort of schooling.

There is an alarming trend on this forum, the more someone disagrees with certain posters, the more that person must have been indoctrinated by the evil greens nazis (even though that greens are left wing and nazism is right wing).

 

[medicowallet]

Please please please let me fill out that spelling form for my grandchildren.

I swear, it is not ethical to brainwash children with this particular religion.

 

[drsmith]

20 isn't, the rest could be said to be related to global warming, as well as a whole range of environmental, economic and other issues. I don't see any problem with this, which is why I think anyone who does is paranoid.

In terms of complexity, those words are out of step with the others, a point you were very keen to make with my evolution words.

Well past your bed time me thinks.

 

[Starcraftmazter]

I swear, it is not ethical to brainwash children with this particular religion.

Instead they must be brainwashed with the religion of no science?

In terms of complexity, those words are out of step with the others, a point you were very keen to make with my evolution words.

Perhaps it is meant to get progressively harder?

Well past your bed time me thinks.

Again resorting to insults and antagonising against people with a viewpoint different to yours. Pathetic really.

 

[drsmith]

Perhaps it is meant to get progressively harder?

Progressively ?

It looks like a somewhat sudden jump to me.

As I said before, it's well past your bed time.

 

[trainspotter]

Well it's not overly hard; does it really require any education? You may as well educate children how to turn on a light bulb?

So you are a professor of education now are you? THESE ARE CHILDREN we are talking about. Would it not be better for them to understand that by throwing rubbish into landfill is more of a pollutant to the atmosphere as it creates a more harmful gas? That recycling is part of a bigger picture "Save the Planet" ethos. Man ... for a second there I thought you were smart. I wont make this mistake again.

There is an alarming trend on this forum, the more someone disagrees with certain posters, the more that person must have been indoctrinated by the evil greens nazis (even though that greens are left wing and nazism is right wing).

Nope .... I didn't stipulate Evil Green Nazis. You are obviously too young or too obtuse to understand what a Soup Nazi is then this is not of my concern. The emotive language you use is one of an idealogical zealot that cannot see that it is obscuring your message. Once again this gets down to your lack of experience.

Look ... no doubt you are a very smart chap in your chosen field. You have how much experience in life matters again? You have kids? Ever driven around Australia? Ever been overseas to a third world country and helped the starving populace? Ever taken the local politican to lunch and listened to them? Exactly what have you done (or has someone done to you) to come up with these radical opinions that the world is such a bad place and mankind is doing it's best to destroy it?

If you are so hell bent on making these radical changes and brow beating the great unwashed masses into being subservient to your philosophy why don't you go and join a political party that is of the same disposition and actually have an effect by handing out leaflets and attending mass sit ins on mine sites stopping progress or jumping on board the "Steve Irwin" and saving the whales. Make a difference by your actions by actually having a solar powered (battery backup) generator on your roof. Live in a thatched hut made of mud bricks, drive a Prius, get out of the IT industry as all those nasty computers and cabling burn an exhaustive amount of energy not only to create but to actually run.

 

[IFocus]

Re: What are we teaching our children ?

Congratulations. You've found a soul mate.

The current cheer squad on all the political threads at the moment appear to be soulless,

Boom Boom.

 

[trainspotter]

Re: What are we teaching our children ?

The current cheer squad on all the political threads at the moment appear to be soulless,

Boom Boom.

I have soul, but you are sole.

Boom Boom Tish.

 

[medicowallet]

Re: What are we teaching our children ?

Just like evolution is not a fact, right?

Science bad! Must keep children ignorant! Quick, hide them in the church basement!

Well at least for evolution, there is credible explanation and science...

Instead they must be brainwashed with the religion of no science?

No, I expect them to be educated in the scientific method, and good science. NOT statistical manipulation and consensus dependant upon funding.

What is your scientific background?

Have you conducted any science / clinical trials etc?

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Re: What are we teaching our children ?

The current cheer squad on all the political threads at the moment appear to be soulless,

Boom Boom.

Rather sou less.

gg

 

[Starcraftmazter]

Man ... for a second there I thought you were smart. I wont make this mistake again.

Again with the insults

Ever taken the local politican to lunch and listened to them?

I think I would rather stab myself....in the face.

If you are so hell bent on making these radical changes

Slow down buddy, I didn't even know about these changes until I read the OP!

why don't you go and join a political party

I really don't like politicians; I prefer to be unaffiliated with any parties or political action groups. I don't wish to subscribe to any predefined set of agenda, and prefer to make a decision for every individual matter on my own.

all those nasty computers and cabling burn an exhaustive amount of energy not only to create but to actually run.

Need I mention how much electricity computers save by operating smart grids.

Well at least for evolution, there is credible explanation and science...

Have you studied the theories of intelligent design? They are actually quite remarkable (not saying I am choosing that side). This is more than I can say about the minuscule proportion of fossil fuel funded scientists which do not "believe" in global warming.

What is your scientific background?

No formal qualifications. Of course if I could, I'd spend my life studying various science and engineering degrees...but we all have our choices to make.

 

[moXJO]

No formal qualifications. Of course if I could, I'd spend my life studying various science and engineering degrees...but we all have our choices to make.

Aren’t you at uni studying engineering?
Maybe I misread your first posts

 

[trainspotter]

Again with the insults

Not an insult at all. I overstimated you is about what it amounts to.

I think I would rather stab myself....in the face.

FOUND IT !! Your inability to listen to the other side is your downfall.

Slow down buddy, I didn't even know about these changes until I read the OP!

But yet your opinion is formulated and chrystalline in it's clarity with no correspondence that can be entered into?

I really don't like politicians; I prefer to be unaffiliated with any parties or political action groups. I don't wish to subscribe to any predefined set of agenda, and prefer to make a decision for every individual matter on my own.

You don't have to like them or their political agendas. But it would seem your predefined conceptions are leaning towards the Brown/Green models. Not that this is a bad thing but like most barbiturates it is best done in moderation.

Need I mention how much electricity computers save by operating smart grids.

Well that is a start. A conglomerate of small things do make a whole. More things like this are required to be done to save our energy usage and NOT destroying our primary industries by a political neck saving tactic of keeping the Greens happy to retain power.

Have you studied the theories of intelligent design? They are actually quite remarkable (not saying I am choosing that side). This is more than I can say about the minuscule proportion of fossil fuel funded scientists which do not "believe" in global warming.

PULLEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZ not with religion as well??

No formal qualifications. Of course if I could, I'd spend my life studying various science and engineering degrees...but we all have our choices to make.

Damn what a cross to bear

 

[Calliope]

Have you studied the theories of intelligent design? They are actually quite remarkable .

Religious fundamentalists in America want this fake science to be taught in schools. This is indoctrination, and is similar to the indoctrination of our children in the fake theories of the fundamentalist warmists.

 

[medicowallet]

Have you studied the theories of intelligent design? They are actually quite remarkable (not saying I am choosing that side). This is more than I can say about the minuscule proportion of fossil fuel funded scientists which do not "believe" in global warming.

No.

My main stance is from the embryology view.

If you study embryology, then explanations of it are quite supportive of evolution.


The evidence in the AGW debate is that the IPCC projections are wrong, and that they cannot provide evidence that man is causing dangerous global warming.

Take a look at the evidence yourself.

Take a look at the IPCC projections yourself.

Form an opinion yourself.

Then post them.

 

[Calliope]

The indoctrination of children in our schools is starting to get results. In yesterday's Newspoll;

While the two leaders have concentrated on little else but the carbon tax as they travel to every state the improvement for the Gillard government has come largely from men, those aged 18-34 years and Labor supporters.