Osama Bin Laden Dead?

[Calliope]

Went home for lunch and saw the broadcasts, while I am glad Bin Laden has been terminated, I dont think there is much value in keep broadcasting the 'celebrations' outside the whitehouse like it was some 'world cup' win. It would only antogonise the next loosehead to start reacting in retaliation.

I hope this goes some way to relieve the pain of those who lost loved ones in the collective acts of terror.

Obama is enjoying being at the centre of the celebrations and taking the credit. However it is a symbolic gesture only and changes nothing. Bin Laden has not been involved in the al Qaeda chain of command for some years.

For the terrorism growth industry, he probably is of more worth to them as a martyr. The recruitment of suicide bombers will step up, especially with impressionable children.

 

[Sean K]

At the risk of contributing to a conspiracy theory; he was found, shot and buried all within 24 hours? That's very convenient, isn't it? .

Absolute joke Greg. If it all happened as stated, then they have the evidence as is required by military law and current SOPs in this conflict. The raid took place on Sunday and then his body was disposed of when? Like, lunch time today at the latest? If so, there was at least a 12 hr period for photos to be taken.

If they don't produce any, this will be a massive credibility problem for the US.

And, agree with the World Cup crowd comments. Crowd/Herd mentality at it's best.

 

[medicowallet]

Wow my Son just arrived in Pakistan today!!

He isn't too impressed with the media at the airport, apparently going through customs is a nightmare now.

But he was so excited to meet a childhood hero at the airport during the wait. Apparently Chuck Norris is just returning from a holiday there.

 

[Glen48]

News reports they checked his DNA and confirmed it was Bin Liner, I was under the impression DNA tests took longer than a few Hours.
The market is up on the news how that works I do not know maybe he was holding a heap of T bills and they went up in flames so US of A won't have to repay.

 

[tech/a]

Wow my Son just arrived in Pakistan today!!

He isn't too impressed with the media at the airport, apparently going through customs is a nightmare now.

But he was so excited to meet a childhood hero at the airport during the wait. Apparently Chuck Norris is just returning from a holiday there.

Thats how they did it.

 

[burglar]

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SOP for EKIA ...

Hi Kennas,
I googled this and found it has less idea than I do!!

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[Glen48]

But he was so excited to meet a childhood hero at the airport during the wait. Apparently Chuck Norris is just returning from a holiday there.


looks like Chuch went for an audition for the part in the nextblock buster movie " I killed Bin Linder"

 

[Sean K]

Hi Kennas,
I googled this and found it has less idea than I do!!

Standard Operating Procedure, Enemy Killed In Action.

Every patrol has a digital camera and some have head-mounted video cameras.

This would have had multimedia surround sound with a dedicated overhead satellite woofer.

Absolutely no excuse for no proof of death.

This is not as easy to manipulate than a fake birth certificate.

 

[burglar]

Standard Operating Procedure, Enemy Killed In Action.

Thanks Kennas,
Learn something new everyday!




It would've be helpful if google didn't change EKIA into IKEA

 

[Julia]

Heard a whisper he has already been buried at sea?? Sounds a bit suss

At the risk of contributing to a conspiracy theory; he was found, shot and buried all within 24 hours? That's very convenient, isn't it?

As for checking his DNA; what DNA are they checking? They couldn't find him for the last 10 years let alone get his DNA for comparisson.

Absolute joke Greg. If it all happened as stated, then they have the evidence as is required by military law and current SOPs in this conflict. The raid took place on Sunday and then his body was disposed of when? Like, lunch time today at the latest? If so, there was at least a 12 hr period for photos to be taken.

If they don't produce any, this will be a massive credibility problem for the US.

And, agree with the World Cup crowd comments. Crowd/Herd mentality at it's best.

Glad I'm not alone in regarding this announcement with a large dose of scepticism.
Much jubilation has happened on the media. Most of "PM" on ABC Radio this evening was devoted to this exciting event.

Yet no one raised any questions about how he could have been living in a built up area in Pakistan for so long, in a compound which must have drawn attention on so many bases, yet no intelligence about his whereabouts has leaked.

As the posts above point out, we need to see a photograph of the body. Why would he have so rapidly been 'buried at sea'. Convenient, indeed.

Perhaps it's true. But perhaps also the sagging Obama administration needed a boost.

Obama is enjoying being at the centre of the celebrations and taking the credit. However it is a symbolic gesture only and changes nothing. Bin Laden has not been involved in the al Qaeda chain of command for some years.

For the terrorism growth industry, he probably is of more worth to them as a martyr. The recruitment of suicide bombers will step up, especially with impressionable children.

Agree entirely. The world was probably a safer place yesterday than it is today.
I believe most people had ceased to regard bin Laden as a genuine threat any longer, and that 9/11 was the culmination of his ambitions.

If anything, terrorism will be exacerbated as the many supporting followers of Osama seek to avenge his death, if indeed he is dead. You'd have to think the jubilation of the US and her allies might be very short lived.

Can't help thinking how funny it would be if another of his ubiquitous videos denouncing the West were to come to light now!

 

[qldfrog]

Until I see a photo of the body, I am skeptical.

SOP for EKIA in this war is to take a photo of them dead.

Dumping the body at sea looks like a good way of avoiding public scrutiny.

Where is the photo?



No conspiracy theory here, just proof of death required.

thinking exactly as you: it was so easy to do and they did not made a show of his body;
what to expect a bad photoshop job release in a week?
There was quite informed info a few months ago he was already dead; This could well be just some PR job as the US are so good at; and a nice way to extract from afghanistan after the total failure there;
But if he died, no tears from me and if he did not but we leave Kabul, still happy

 

[Sean K]

The 'official' descriptions of his 'hideout' are quite troubling, as you guys have stated.

It seems like a castle was erected over the past 10 years in the middle of a poor village and no-one thought anything of it. Even with a $50m reward.

Even CNN has raised the conspiracy theory speak.

 

[nukz]

The 'official' descriptions of his 'hideout' are quite troubling, as you guys have stated.

It seems like a castle was erected over the past 10 years in the middle of a poor village and no-one thought anything of it. Even with a $50m reward.

Even CNN has raised the conspiracy theory speak.

Theres a interesting description of the place on CNBC, it was valued at approximately 1m(USD) and was owned by one of his brothers but they could not confirm were any of the funds had even come from (big question mark there)

The area were this house was located is apparently a area were lots of retired military live. The house was apparently about 8 times bigger than any house in surrounding area with a massive 18ft wall around it. I'm no expect but i suspect 1m would get you some huge castle in Pakistan.

The place was built in 2005.... love to know were the money came from? since this is a stock forum i would love to see a money trail of something like this.

 

[Sean K]

CNN just played some video 'proof' that was about 10sec long and showed a bedroom with some blood stained sheets....



CNN, are you serious???

US seems now to be relying on DNA samples of what?

Something at the bottom of the sea?

LOL

 

[moXJO]

CNN just played some video 'proof' that was about 10sec long and showed a bedroom with some blood stained sheets....



CNN, are you serious???

US seems now to be relying on DNA samples of what?

Something at the bottom of the sea?

LOL

The only other thing I could think of why the haven't released the photo/video yet is to trap Trump into looking like a fringe nut, well more of a fringe nut anyway.

 

[bellenuit]

CNN just played some video 'proof' that was about 10sec long and showed a bedroom with some blood stained sheets....



CNN, are you serious???

US seems now to be relying on DNA samples of what?

Something at the bottom of the sea?

LOL

And did you notice the big banner across the CNN screen when they aired that clip a few minutes ago? It said.......

"INSIDE OBAMA'S COMPOUND"

LOL. They don't know their president from their feature terrorist.

Re whether the killing should be believed. I heard on News Radio earlier that a leading Al-Qaeda person has confirmed that OBL has been killed.

 

[Sean K]

The only other thing I could think of why the haven't released the photo/video yet is to trap Trump into looking like a fringe nut, well more of a fringe nut anyway.

Are you sure he's a nut?

Or, is he a bald nut incognito?



The US is going CRAZY! and no one has seen a body!!!

 

[nukz]

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/78385...tics,osama-bin-laden-dead-photo-deemed-a-fake

This was on google news feed 37 mins old. This is the same pic that was shown on Pakistan TV earlier.

Heres what was shown on Pakistan TV :
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/images/2011/Apr/osama-dead-photo.jpg

I find it interesting that Obama has made a speech saying they have killed Osama then we later hear that DNA tests are yet to be confirmed and are still underway(CNN).

 

[Julia]

US seems now to be relying on DNA samples of what?

Something at the bottom of the sea?

LOL

Zackly. Where would they have got the original DNA of Osama from anyway so it could be the comparison for that obtained from the freshly killed Osama?

Seem to be a lot of questions.

 

[bellenuit]

Zackly. Where would they have got the original DNA of Osama from anyway so it could be the comparison for that obtained from the freshly killed Osama?

Seem to be a lot of questions.

I read a long time back that they had already taken DNA from some of his family members so that they would be able to identify him when captured/killed. I think he has some siblings that have disowned him and were co-operative in providing the DNA.