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Touche' - but I retort, good sir, that they are not mutually exclusive termsNobody has pointed out the difference to you between a nutter and a socialist?
How long will the new minority Government last?
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Fair points - one would expect a swing away from Oakeshott if voters are unhappy with his support for Gillard, although I say some of the swing will be tempered if the pork barrel for the country independants was particularly full.
Given the swing away from major parties receiving the primary vote (95% in 1975 down to 82% in 2010) I would expect that people are far more likely to vote for an outcome rather than just on idealogical lines these days.
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Isn't there a seat that has been thrown into doubt? I can't remember the name of it and can't understand the AEC website (too many links).
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Snake, it's Corangamite. Here's the link straight to the close seat page at AEC:
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseCloseSeats-15508-NAT.htm
With just over 95% of the vote counted for Corangamite I would think it unlikely to change now. Labor are ahead in that seat by about 770 on the 2PP count.
I suppose the libs could ask for a recount though. They would have nothing to lose and possibly an election to gain...
I agree we have only just begun. Why would the independents let this opportunity go they will never again be in this position of power.
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No more than a few months. That should have been a number for the pole.
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haha Noco - maybe this is why some labor supporters here are into "knock Abbott" and "knock opposition in general" mode in an effort to deflect from the cracks that are going on inside their favoured party...
They don't seem to realise they won this thing by a whisker, but nevertheless, they won (for now). Why are they not promoting the good things their party does (if there are any - lol) rather than pick holes in the other side.
Why not celebrate their victory instead of going out of their way to kick the opposition...
Could it be they fear another election sooner rather than later...
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Snake, it's Corangamite. Here's the link straight to the close seat page at AEC:
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseCloseSeats-15508-NAT.htm
With just over 95% of the vote counted for Corangamite I would think it unlikely to change now. Labor are ahead in that seat by about 770 on the 2PP count.
I suppose the libs could ask for a recount though. They would have nothing to lose and possibly an election to gain...
Yes that was it. At the time I heard it Labour was considered out with it up in the air. Thanks for the link.
haha Noco - maybe this is why some labor supporters here are into "knock Abbott" and "knock opposition in general" mode in an effort to deflect from the cracks that are going on inside their favoured party...
They don't seem to realise they won this thing by a whisker, but nevertheless, they won (for now). Why are they not promoting the good things their party does (if there are any - lol) rather than pick holes in the other side.
Why not celebrate their victory instead of going out of their way to kick the opposition...
Could it be they fear another election sooner rather than later...
Too true sails, these Labor hacks know only too well they on shakey ground and will certainly fear another election some time soon.
The Labor Party have a long history of diversion away from their problems. It's like giving a kid a lollie to stop him crying. You know take the mind off the real problem in the hope it goes away.
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Hi Sails and Noco,
don't be so sure this latest push isn't so much anti-Opposition as pro-Turnbull. Seems conveniently timed, with Shadow Cabinet reshuffles at issue.
don't be so sure this latest push isn't so much anti-Opposition as pro-Turnbull. Seems conveniently timed, with Shadow Cabinet reshuffles at issue.
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We have passed the 6 months mark so 9 voters (20.45%) got it wrong, in fact the government is looking quite strong in my opinion, the alliance holding firm, hasn't really even been tested yet...the Govt would be an odds on bet to stay in power passed the 1 year mark i would reckon.
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Your spot on So_Cynical, they haven't been tested yet. This is mainly due to the fact they haven't done anything yet. But they can't just keep talking about things and achieving nothing, or conversely the only achievements they do have turning into disasters.
The carbon tax is turning into another mess. No news is good news for the N.B.N.
With a budget in deficit and the cost of living, especially food and fuel, going through the roof. It doesn't give them a lot of room to move and leaves them very exposed to an external financial shock.
If that happens it will be everyone for themselves, there will be no loyalty from the independents. Even the recipients of the handouts will be wishing they banked it instead of buying the plasmas.
Maybe no financial disaster will happen, however we are sailing in uncharted water.
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The government looking quite strong?
Have you missed the last few opinion polls?
If there were an election tomorrow they'd be thrown out in the biggest defeat for Labor federally for a very long time.
How can you be so in denial of reality?
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I'm following the example set by the ASF right
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Like 1 vote Tony has a chance in hell of winning the next election...while the smartest bloke in the room (Turnbull) sits idly by, rejected by the right.
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Hell is what the current government is experiencing.
Ms. Gillard is running out of fingers to plug all the holes in the dyke. We could say she really does not know what she is doing.
Yes polls do come and go but unfortunately for Ms. Gillard her's is only going one way; south.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...nd-so-do-leaders/story-e6frgd0x-1226044649356
If popularity or lack of could force new elections, then yes it would be over already, but we are dealing with real people who will do anything to cling to power.
They have power until next election, why change anything?
Possibly Labor machinery will swap her for some other first?
Maybe somebody with different sexual preferences, or different race, maybe different religion?
They have power until next election, why change anything?
Possibly Labor machinery will swap her for some other first?
Maybe somebody with different sexual preferences, or different race, maybe different religion?
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I'm curious to know why there wasn't a Newspoll published last week.
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