Pauline Hanson for PM?

[Mofra]

We do have labour and skills shortage. Just because someone is unemployed does not mean he is employable. It's about the right person for the job, not any person.

Bingo - the unemployment rate is at near 5% anyway which is the tipping poitn for most economists as being a precurser to higher than inflation wage growth.

 

[sails]

I think that is the point, we are talking about someone who seems to think that skin colour is an indicator of human value, something I disagree with....

I absolutely agree with you on this one, Mofra...

I travelled extensively in my younger days and met many wonderful people of all colours. However, there are those with undesirable attitudes who can be found in every nationality.

 

[disarray]

we are talking about someone who seems to think that skin colour is an indicator of human value, something I disagree with.

are you sure its skin colour and not culture / religion / sociology?

The last census data indicates that 91% of Australia is anglo-saxon - how does that gel with Hanson's speech warning us we are in danger of being "swamped by Asians"?

well they do make up around 20% of the populations of melbourne and sydney and congregate in enclaves making them highly visible in certain areas. she's not a clever woman and may have been easily startled by the concentration of <foreigners> in <ethnic enclave>

currently more than 20% of Australians were born in another country, 55% coming from non-english speaking countries in Europe, the Middle East, Asia and South America, and 20% of those coming from asia (which includes india). combined with their Australian-born children, they constitute 40% of the population. and anglo-celts only make up 74% of the population of australia, other euros 19% and around 5% asian so its not 91% anglo.

whichever way you look at the rate of growth and change in australia has been substantial yet there has been no public consultation or debate on what WE want the population and its composition and values to be. rather we get business constantly agitating for more consumers and cheaper labour and nanny state governments telling us it knows best, and apparently best is jamming as many people as possible into our capital cities while letting regional areas wither on the vine.

 

[Mofra]

are you sure its skin colour and not culture / religion / sociology?

You noted skin colour in your post so you must believe it is of some relevence.

well they do make up around 20% of the populations of melbourne and sydney and congregate in enclaves making them highly visible in certain areas. she's not a clever woman and may have been easily startled by the concentration of <foreigners> in <ethnic enclave>

a. She's started by non-whites? This is someone people want in power
b. Just because someone isn't white, that doesn't make them a foreigner

currently more than 20% of Australians were born in another country, 55% coming from non-english speaking countries in Europe, the Middle East, Asia and South America, and 20% of those coming from asia (which includes india). combined with their Australian-born children, they constitute 40% of the population. and anglo-celts only make up 74% of the population of australia, other euros 19% and around 5% asian so its not 91% anglo.

I had figures from the ABS website that said 91%. Your figures above note 74% anglo-celt + 19% "other euros", which is 93% - I assuem some "other Euros" can be disceminated further.

whichever way you look at the rate of growth and change in australia has been substantial yet there has been no public consultation or debate on what WE want the population and its composition and values to be. rather we get business constantly agitating for more consumers and cheaper labour and nanny state governments telling us it knows best, and apparently best is jamming as many people as possible into our capital cities while letting regional areas wither on the vine.

We do have a say on the future direction of the country - they're called democratic elections and we (in theory) vote for the people we wish to lead the country (nevermind the fact that in recent history we tend to vote against the worst candidate or for the "least bad" candidate).

State governments are makign concerted efforts to incentivise people into regional areas - some skilled migrants have employment in regional areas as a condition of permanent or temporary residency status, and the Vic gov are trying to move departments to regional areas.

If you hinting that you'd like the Federal Government to do more to incentivise people to move to regional areas, I agree totally.

 

[alphaman]

instead we follow the path of least resistance and import large numbers of foreigners (who will invariably settle in the capital cities instead of regional areas where they are needed anyway) which drives down the cost of labour, while increasing social tensions, infrastructure stress and competition for housing.

I don't think Australian Bureau of Statistics has shown cost of labour going down. But even if cost has gone down, it's not necessarily a bad thing. I mean we could always legislate to overpay everyone, but I doubt that would actually do the economy any good.

shortage is in the foresight, planning and political will of our elected leaders and public servants.

That's always been the case, but as a trader I've come to accept that it's difficult to have reliable foresight, so I'm not going to blame the politicians on this. For the same reason I never expect much of the policymakers, in fact I prefer that they do less. I think it's illogical to expect governments to correct every problem in our society, knowing governments are generally incompetent.

 

[Julia]

this whole "skills / labour shortage" is rubbish, the only shortage is in the foresight, planning and political will of our elected leaders and public servants.

Agree.

a. She's started by non-whites? This is someone people want in power

(Presume the above is meant to be "startled"?)
Let's not get carried away. This thread is the first I've heard of Ms Hanson for ages. Have seen nothing in the media about anyone wanting her to be involved in politics again, let alone be PM, which is quite laughable.
Perhaps she has stated such an attention, but perhaps too, the media has finally ceased to find her interesting.
If so, thank goodness.

 

[Happy]

Guess what?
She is back!

Pauline put her hand up for Senate election in NSW

Predicably her person was discredited by comments from Labor, Liberal and Greens Party.

Yet, Channel 7 phone poll run to midnight yesterday brought response that 86% of people who took part in survey said that they would vote for Pauline Hanson should they be in a position to vote for her.

Who is out of touch?

Why nobody talks openly about what she says?

Our politicians well know that France, Germany and Great Britain have sizeable problems with incompatible groups of residents, yet they pretend that nothing like that happens here.

Interesting what the outcome will be?

 

[nulla nulla]

It could be a money spinner for her. Apparantly if she acheives a certain number of votes (although not elected) she is "reimbursed" a sum in proportion to the number of votes she receives by the Electoral Commission toward the campaign expenses whether or not that much was spent. Her last tilt for a seat was reported in the media as netting her approx $200k.

 

[Tink]

You have hit the nail on the head there Nulla Nulla -- the $$$$. She has to cash in somehow.

What happened to her UK move or was that just to get her name in the paper?

Looks like she is moving to Sydney, not Melbourne : )

 

[Logique]

Yep. Am I wrong in surmising that QLD has no upper house?

So she blows in to NSW. The Legislative Council is an 8 year sinecure with a pension at the end, and nothing like the pressure of the the Lower House.

Sit on a few committees, keep your head down, rake in the salary and perks.

An opportunist, one of many standing on 26 March, all of them excited by the power the independents fell into at the federal level.

 

[macca]

Yep. Am I wrong in surmising that QLD has no upper house?

So she blows in to NSW. The Legislative Council is an 8 year sinecure with a pension at the end, and nothing like the pressure of the the Lower House.

Sit on a few committees, keep your head down, rake in the salary and perks.

An opportunist, one of many standing on 26 March, all of them excited by the power the independents fell into at the federal level.

Sounds like most of the pollies in the upper house to me

 

[macca]

It could be a money spinner for her. Apparantly if she acheives a certain number of votes (although not elected) she is "reimbursed" a sum in proportion to the number of votes she receives by the Electoral Commission toward the campaign expenses whether or not that much was spent. Her last tilt for a seat was reported in the media as netting her approx $200k.

Same rules apply to all runners, the major parties reap millions, why shouldn't every one be treated by the same rules

 

[IFocus]

Ideal scenario is Pauline gets elected, starts a slush fund and gets Abbott arrested and jailed.

 

[Logique]

Sounds like most of the pollies in the upper house to me

She would be in celebrated company no doubt. Macca, my commiserations to you as a fellow sufferer of living in NSW, I hope 26th March brings you some joy.

 

[Logique]

Ideal scenario is Pauline gets elected, starts a slush fund and gets Abbott arrested and jailed.

Now don't be like that IF, the Right have done their duty with Ms Hanson, what have you lot done about (Prime Minister) Brown and (Deputy) Milne? Sorry if a bit sharp, feeling a bit crabby on the Friday afternoon of a down week for the indexes.

 

[nulla nulla]

Ideal scenario is Pauline gets elected, starts a slush fund and gets Abbott arrested and jailed.

History repeating itself. lol. We should be so fortunate.

 

[IFocus]

Now don't be like that IF, the Right have done their duty with Ms Hanson, what have you lot done about (Prime Minister) Brown and (Deputy) Milne? Sorry if a bit sharp, feeling a bit crabby on the Friday afternoon of a down week for the indexes.

Yet understand I am in draw down too, soon to go short on any rebound failure.

Lots of talk about the greens running Labor did Howard get run by the Democrats when he did deals to get his agenda over the line?

 

[drsmith]

John Howard at least had his own agenda.

Julia Gillard did say there would be no carbon tax under a government she leads.

 

[medicowallet]

PAULINE, for PM?

The last thing we need is that useless ranga sheila running this country.

Oh, and I don't think Pauline would do much better of a job either.

 

[bellenuit]

PAULINE, for PM?

The last thing we need is that useless ranga sheila running this country.

Oh, and I don't think Pauline would do much better of a job either.

LOL!