Charlie Sheen

[Beams]

Pretty much So_Cynical,

If anyone made $10 million a week ($2 million an episode, say one episode a day) you would pretty much doing everything Charlie is currently doing.

 

[Julia]

If anyone made $10 million a week ($2 million an episode, say one episode a day) you would pretty much doing everything Charlie is currently doing.

What? Why would you?

 

[So_Cynical]

What? Why would you?

Because you could....that's the point, normal people,the vast majority of mankind never has a chance to live an extraordinary life and live like a king...money gives the individual the power to do that, so why wouldn't you/anyone do that.

I met a guy in Ghana (west Africa) a few years ago, he was the father of a sorta friend of mine...this old man had 5 wife's and like 30 children, he owned a biggish Cocoa plantation and was by local standards a rich man (only rich men can afford 5 wife's ) this old man had an extraordinary life...lived like a king, all with a net worth of (in the end) only maybe 300K

Money allows the individual to do stuff that others cant do...and if you have money and don't do stuff that only money can allow you to do...then its a bit of a wasted opportunity....i reckon.

 

[Solly]

Charlie Sheen admits first 'Sheen's Korner' sucked, dedicates second episode to dead pug Betty
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/03/07/charlie-sheen-korner-second-episode/

Now he's really lost it: Manic Charlie Sheen rages about 'torpedoes of truth' in frenzied F-word webcast.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1363833/Charlie-Sheen-rages-torpedoes-truth-frenzied-F-word-webcast.html


Or direct to Ustream episode 2 here.
http://www.ustream.tv/charliesheen

Maybe it's time to call the nurse

 

[Tink]

I agree with Julia - what? Why would you?

You might but not everyone is the same personality/character, thankGod.

Plenty made millions and werent sprawled in the paper as this twit. He is psychotic.

What those poor kids are seeing is disgusting and its sad to see people urging him on.

Off topic - Actually there is a pepperism that bugs me - 'everyone would' - You would, not everyone.

 

[Julia]

Off topic - Actually there is a pepperism that bugs me - 'everyone would' - You would, not everyone.

Exactly.
You are saying, So Cynical, that if you had more money than you needed, you too would behave as Sheen is doing. If that's the case, then I'm sorry for you, but don't paint everyone else with the same dirty paintbrush.

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

I was giving the benefit of any doubt I had. After his latest video on the phone I lost any respect for him. He talked nonsense and it seemed negative. He's winning, he says, then why the hatred talk?

 

[Sean K]

Exactly.
You are saying, So Cynical, that if you had more money than you needed, you too would behave as Sheen is doing. If that's the case, then I'm sorry for you, but don't paint everyone else with the same dirty paintbrush.

Yes, I agree it would certainly not everyone that took advantage of such wealth. The people who got there through real hard work living in the 'real world' wouldn't be heading down that path, most likely. Although, I can think of a few high profile business people who have gone off the edge.

Then, there is the celebrity world, via sports success or media.

These people are living the celebrity dream that they probably craved and required. Then they get lost in their own self importance. Examples in the world of Hollywood and Sports are endless.

Do we blame Charlie for wanting the fame and not handling it?

Or the culture that creates and nurtures it?

 

[So_Cynical]

Exactly.
You are saying, So Cynical, that if you had more money than you needed, you too would behave as Sheen is doing. If that's the case, then I'm sorry for you, but don't paint everyone else with the same dirty paintbrush.

LOL what's dirty, i don't get it?

Yes im saying i would be living a life similar to Charlie if i could afford it, just no where near as high profile as there is just no point to that (i don't have Sheens ego) - look at Hefner has done this sorta stuff for decades and got away with it, the guys an icon and gets away with it because its managed, Hefner has a PR team of pros and the girls are all under contract.

I have no understanding at all of people having the opportunity that comes from big money to change there life's, and not doing it, lotto winners that just buy a better car and take a world trip and yet continue to live on the same street etc...just drive me nuts.

 

[Julia]

LOL what's dirty, i don't get it?

Yes im saying i would be living a life similar to Charlie if i could afford it, just no where near as high profile as there is just no point to that (i don't have Sheens ego) - look at Hefner has done this sorta stuff for decades and got away with it, the guys an icon and gets away with it because its managed, Hefner has a PR team of pros and the girls are all under contract.

I have no understanding at all of people having the opportunity that comes from big money to change there life's, and not doing it, lotto winners that just buy a better car and take a world trip and yet continue to live on the same street etc...just drive me nuts.

Oh dear. If you don't get the objection to your suggestion that anyone with money will stupidly take drugs to the point of incurring a drug induced psychosis, in the process making a total fool of themselves with various other activities, then there's little point in pursuing the discussion.

For your own pursuit of health and happiness, I can only hope you never make a lot of money, given your stated intention to behave as a clone of Mr Sheen.

 

[basilio]

Interesting ideas here. So Cynical seems to believe that lot's of money could mean hot and cold running women, great drugs and all the accouterments of huge wealth.

And that this would make him (and us ? ) so happy.....

I just don't think that has proven the case - and in fact the opposite. If we look at Pop stars, movie stars, inheritors of great wealth, the odd lottery winner there seems to be many, many bitter examples of people who have not been happy with the excess of wealth they have come into.

I don't know where this fits in but I think it is interesting that Bill Gates and Warren Buffet - two of the richest people in the world - have decided that giving away their wealth in a thoughtful philanthropic way was one of the more meaningful things they could do with their good fortune.

Perhaps we are happiest when we are at our most unselfish ?

 

[wayneL]

Because you could....that's the point, normal people,the vast majority of mankind never has a chance to live an extraordinary life and live like a king...money gives the individual the power to do that, so why wouldn't you/anyone do that.

I met a guy in Ghana (west Africa) a few years ago, he was the father of a sorta friend of mine...this old man had 5 wife's and like 30 children, he owned a biggish Cocoa plantation and was by local standards a rich man (only rich men can afford 5 wife's ) this old man had an extraordinary life...lived like a king, all with a net worth of (in the end) only maybe 300K

Money allows the individual to do stuff that others cant do...and if you have money and don't do stuff that only money can allow you to do...then its a bit of a wasted opportunity....i reckon.

So you wouldn't "redistribute" your wealth in line with your political ideology?

 

[youngone]

Never liked the show and liked Sheen.

I dont get why he deserves so much for a ****ty comedy. So he gets paid to play a horny guy that have sex with hot young girls in every episodes, lives with a gay brother who wants to get laid, and a fat kid who is influenced by his gay dad and his horny uncle who brings different girls on different day, and asks them for sex advise?

Anyway I never liked Sheen, hes a wife beater, woman beater, drugged-f, he can do the world a better place should he decide to take his rants out the window apartment. Then i will watch his web cast.

 

[nulla nulla]

So you wouldn't "redistribute" your wealth in line with your political ideology?

Of course he would "redistribute" his new found wealth in line with his political idealogy.

He would spend it, thereby creating employment and investment in infrastructure: Employment opportunities in primary production as substance crops are sown, cultivated, packed and distributed;
Expansion of hospitals and creation of more employment as his substance abuse weighs in on his abused body;
Employment opportunities and investment in infrastructure as law enforcement agencies expand and go to work trying to cut off his supply;
Expansion of the alcohol distributors trying to cater to his demands; and of course
The opportunity for young women to debase themselves and be highly rewarded (financialy) for finding more and more ways to satisfy his perpetual carnal desires.

A very noble and generous means to "redistribute" his new found wealth. Probably very quickly too as he self implodes and destroys himself in what superficialy appears to be a selfish hedonisitic life style but what is really the equivalent of a large scale community orientated stimulus package.

 

[awg]

Interesting ideas here. So Cynical seems to believe that lot's of money could mean hot and cold running women, great drugs and all the accouterments of huge wealth.

And that this would make him (and us ? ) so happy.....

I just don't think that has proven the case - and in fact the opposite. If we look at Pop stars, movie stars, inheritors of great wealth, the odd lottery winner there seems to be many, many bitter examples of people who have not been happy with the excess of wealth they have come into.

I don't know where this fits in but I think it is interesting that Bill Gates and Warren Buffet - two of the richest people in the world - have decided that giving away their wealth in a thoughtful philanthropic way was one of the more meaningful things they could do with their good fortune.

Perhaps we are happiest when we are at our most unselfish ?

I feel that i would succumb to a Charley-style lifetyle if the chance arose

However, philosophy and religious texts of all faiths and creeds emphasise that true contentment can only be found thru humility, charity, and generally not living a vice-filled lifestyle etc.

There must be a reason for that uniformity.

Wondering how long it will be before the police decide to pay him a visit ?

As he is publicly boasting of drug use, the police might not be pleased,
and at least in Australia, you can be sectioned involuntarily under the Mental Health Act, if you act weird when the cops turn up, ranting and raving.

Persons can be involuntarily sectioned if they are considered a danger to themselves

 

[Sean K]

lives with a gay brother who wants to get laid, and a fat kid who is influenced by his gay dad.

He's not gay. Tried it once but got turned knocked back.

 

[trainspotter]

He's not gay. Tried it once but got turned knocked back.

He's not gay. He once slept with a bloke who thought he was gay ... but he is not gay.

Charlie Sheen eh? Rob Lowe is rumoured to take over Sheens role on "2 and a half men".

Jon Cryer (apt last name?) - is one man
Angus T. Jones (fat adolescent) - is one man
Charlie Sheen - must be the half man / half drug crazed maniac hell bent on self destruction?

 

[jbocker]

I just wonder what people would say if he was to OD. I find the whole thing really sad.

$2M a show or $3M, is one thing he was bitter and twisted about. Once I heard that, it was time to leave the media circus.

Charlie is now a modern day geek, society would howl if the Elephant man was paraded today as he was back then. I am sure one day society will be shamed how we have encouraged Charlie to take centre stage in the internet circus.

Roll Up , Roll Up Come see the Amazing Charlie...

Oh I meant to add that I liked 2 1/2 Men, mostly for the other characters as well as Charlie, young bloke is pretty big now would probably rename the show 3 1/2 men

 

[youngone]

I feel that i would succumb to a Charley-style lifetyle if the chance arose


Persons can be involuntarily sectioned if they are considered a danger to themselves

You mean like Ricky Nixon. Hes probably laughing in his rehab centre and planning his revenge comeback on the 17 yo girl.

Im surprise that the police let the old perv get away with this acts, abuse, and threats so much for fair justice. Are there anymore victims?

Hes only sorry thats he caught. (oh wait, he hasn't said sorry)

 

[Logique]

Charlie seems pretty out there, certainly full of himself...if i was loaded with money i would be living a similar life style, like i would be doing stuff to make me happy and not taking **** from anyone....seriously if i could afford to live with pr0n stars i would be..

I think you've been judged too harshly So_Cynical. Especially for the young, sudden fame and wealth has overwhelming temptations. It messes with your head.

History is littered with stars and starlets, in acting, music and sports, who have gone off the rails. Many talented people taken too soon.

Sheen isn't the first to over estimate his capacity for drugs. He is in the old-enough-to-know-better category, but once you're in that lifestyle, it's hard to break out.