2010 Federal Election

[Calliope]

The pathetic ugly duckling Wayne Swan has his knickers in a knot over the Coalition costings. I don't know why he is so concerned. Nobody understands them, not even Hockey.

Both claim they will get the budget back into surplus by 2012/2013. Swan says that is three years early. Earlier than what?

 

[noco]

Did anyone from the media ask Julia at her National Press Club address today whether a price on carbon would be introduced during the next term of a Labor government.

Bob Brown was was adamant at his National Press Club address yesterday that it would.

I heard Wayne Swan on one of the recent interviews stating categorically there would be NO CPRS in the next term of parliament if the Labor Party were relected and yet Bob Brown says there will.

 

[sails]

Posted this in the Gillard thread but worth putting the info here as well with Swan waffling on about coatition costings.
The article is a few days old, but I suspect nothing has changed.

WAYNE Swan has admitted policies announced at Labor's official campaign launch on Monday will not be costed by Treasury, as he hammered the Coalition for refusing to have their prices checked.

full article: http://www.news.com.au/features/fed...ampaign-costings/story-e6frfllr-1225904750492

 

[drsmith]

I heard Wayne Swan on one of the recent interviews stating categorically there would be NO CPRS in the next term of parliament if the Labor Party were relected and yet Bob Brown says there will.

Would that be this from Aug 12,

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2010/s2981491.htm

To cut a long story short,

JOE HOCKEY: What was that? Was that yes or no? That was just... The fundamental question is, are you going to rule out a carbon tax in the next term of the Government - yes or no?

WAYNE SWAN: We have made our position very clear. We have ruled it out. We have to go back to the community and work out a way in which we can put a cap on carbon pollution.

A serious contradiction between the Greens and the ALP, or so it seems.

I would still like to hear it from Julia Gillard.

 

[Julia]

When did the Coalition change their policy on mandatory internet filtering ?

About two weeks ago they announced that they would not support the filter.
Prior to this they were sitting on the fence. Didn't at any stage say they would support it.

 

[noco]

Would that be this from Aug 12,

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2010/s2981491.htm

To cut a long story short,


A serious contradiction between the Greens and the ALP, or so it seems.

I would still like to hear it from Julia Gillard.

Thanks drsmith, yes that was the one. Swan says NO to any CPRS between 2010 and 2013 if they are re-elected. The Greens say there will be a CPRS if Labor wins the election.

 

[trainspotter]

OK OK OK OK ... time to put up or shut up ........ Liberals by 4 seats for me. NO HUNG PARLIAMENT. Bottle of Vintage Moet is the bet. Will send anywhere in Australia by Platinum Express. Any takers?

(not sure if this contravenes any ASF laws here so I might get into trouble?)

 

[drsmith]

About two weeks ago they announced that they would not support the filter.
Prior to this they were sitting on the fence. Didn't at any stage say they would support it.

My mistake.

I misread the GetUp table above.

 

[drsmith]

Thanks drsmith, yes that was the one. Swan says NO to any CPRS between 2010 and 2013 if they are re-elected. The Greens say there will be a CPRS if Labor wins the election.

Old Bobby-boy at the National Press Club said there would be a carbon tax full stop.

 

[drsmith]

And Julia is smoking the same bong as Bob although not quiet inhaling to the same extent.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...on-price-promise/story-fn59niix-1225907522983

 

[wayneL]

OK OK OK OK ... time to put up or shut up ........ Liberals by 4 seats for me. NO HUNG PARLIAMENT. Bottle of Vintage Moet is the bet. Will send anywhere in Australia by Platinum Express. Any takers?

(not sure if this contravenes any ASF laws here so I might get into trouble?)

I'm not quite a fan of the unLiberals yet, but if that happened I'd crack a bottle of Moet. Then I'd fly back to Oz just to shove the empty bottle up the ~~~~ of the biased and vile Labor stooges that pass themselves off as political commentators the NZ disc jocks phone up for comment.

Best comment by an NZ jock - "Gillard sounds like Kath and Kim on Valium".

 

[drsmith]

And Julia is smoking the same bong as Bob although not quiet inhaling to the same extent.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...on-price-promise/story-fn59niix-1225907522983

I suspect the deal between Labor and the Greens is to legislate a tax on carbon during the next term but such that the tax would not actually commence till after the start of the following term.

That would satisfy Bob Brown's demand for a carbon tax this term in that it would be legislated by the next election (expected 2013).

 

[Calliope]

The sweet Julia with the girlish laugh is starting to lose her cool. On ABC this morning she answered every question by Lyndal Curtis with a litany of lies about what we could expect from Abbott if we were stupid enough to elect him.

In reply to a bit of probing on why she was delaying her ETS program, she snapped back "what a load of nonsense."

We are starting to see the real Julia. The facade is is wearing away.

 

[gordon2007]

OK OK OK OK ... time to put up or shut up ........ Liberals by 4 seats for me. NO HUNG PARLIAMENT. Bottle of Vintage Moet is the bet. Will send anywhere in Australia by Platinum Express. Any takers? (not sure if this contravenes any ASF laws here so I might get into trouble?)

I think you're spot on with this prediction.

 

[Calliope]

I know that politicians seeking election have to do some nauseating things, but I feel sorry for Julia having to kiss Wayne Swan on several occasions.

 

[trainspotter]

The other thing that PEEVES me to a point of distraction which seems to be escaping the puny grasp of the voters is that all of these promises will not be met until 2013/2014. Now I am no maths genius but don't we need another election between now and when these "promises" kick in? HUH ? Anybody.

What happened to the "Grocerywatch" website? 10 million and then nuffin
What happened to a laptop for every kid in school? EPIC FAIL
What happened to the 346 SUPER GP CLINICS promised? 3 delivered. Oh JOY !

I could list about another 200 or so "broken promises" but I don't want to be a thread hog.

So tell me again why are we voting Labor? Now the Libs are no better, 1 billion dollars a day on this particular election campaign Tony Abbott has thrown at the nation of voters. Guess what ? Most of it wont kick in until 2013/2014.

I can hardly wait.

 

[Mofra]

Too true trainspotter - regardless of result, we're going to end up with Abbott or Gillard

 

[prawn_86]

Too true trainspotter - regardless of result, we're going to end up with Abbott or Gillard

http://senatoronline.org.au/ - i know they have no hope of getting up, but we can actually (hopefully) sit up and make the major parties realise people are (slowly) waking up to their cr@p

 

[nioka]

http://senatoronline.org.au/ - i know they have no hope of getting up, but we can actually (hopefully) sit up and make the major parties realise people are (slowly) waking up to their cr@p

The worst possible thing that can happen is to have a party in power that has to let the minority greens led by an (censored) have undue influence because of a backroom deal that was necessary for a power hungry indivudial to get that position of power.

That is NOT democracy. Bob Brown is already stating what "WE" will do in government.

If all you want to do is have a protest vote then Mark Latham gave you an alternative.

 

[prawn_86]

The worst possible thing that can happen is to have a party in power that has to let the minority greens led by an (censored) have undue influence because of a backroom deal that was necessary for a power hungry indivudial to get that position of power.

That is NOT democracy. Bob Brown is already stating what "WE" will do in government.

What do they have to do with the Greens? As far as i can tell they are independent