2010 Federal Election

[Happy]

How arrogant is this woman???

....
How rude - hopefully this backfires on her...

From what I heard, she wants to answer questions after him.
Suppose better chance to ridicule him without a chance for reply, might work in her favour, unfortunately.

 

[sails]

From what I heard, she wants to answer questions after him.
Suppose better chance to ridicule him without a chance for reply, might work in her favour, unfortunately.

As I understand, it was planned that Abbott would have one hour with undecided voters from 6pm. Then Gillard would have an hour from 7:30pm.

But now she wants to gatecrash Abbott's time at 6pm for a debate on the economy. If so, that's getting pretty low, IMO.

 

[trainspotter]

So "NO" doesn't mean "NO" in Julias world? She was offered three debates from Tony Abbott but she insisted on one. No one said anything then about her being "chicken" or a Mr Rabbit or "running scared". Are we really that gullible as a nation of voters that we allow this to happen?

Her constant arm touching freaks me out a little bit as well.

 

[Mofra]

Dear Michael Pascoe,

You have once again hit the nail on the head.

Thank you

http://www.theage.com.au/business/the-big-tax-lie-is-coming-to-bite-us-20100818-128pi.html

 

[Julia]

I loved this headline in the Brisbane Courier-Mail this morning;

Labor to Teach Financial Skills

The Australian also carried the same report, but added that teachers would first receive appropriate education via ASIC.

How arrogant is this woman???

Abbott gave her the opportunity to debate the economy for half an hour last night. She didn't turn up. Now she is planning to gatecrash Abbott's time at the forum tonight to demand a debate.

If she actually does that, she will be very foolish imo.
They have both behaved very childishly about this. It's quite incredible that the petty arguments about when to have what debates and/or forums have absorbed most of the air time for the last week!

Her constant arm touching freaks me out a little bit as well.

Agree. It's extremely patronising, almost insulting.

 

[sails]

If she actually does that, she will be very foolish imo.
They have both behaved very childishly about this. It's quite incredible that the petty arguments about when to have what debates and/or forums have absorbed most of the air time for the last week!

I am beginning to think she might be afraid of an economic debate with Abbott. Is this possibly all bluff on her part?

Abbott initially requested two more debates - Gillard refused.
Gillard changed her mind and said "anywhere, anytime".
Abbott offered her a half hour debate on ABC last night - she refused.

Now she wants to gatecrash on his forum time. My guess is she knows he won't budge. Starting to look like she really doesn't want to debate him on the economy at all.

Here is an article from the Business Spectator where Abbott clearly states he has set that time for questions from the people: http://www.businessspectator.com.au...tt-set-for-debate-showdown-8F648?OpenDocument

I will be there at 6 o'clock tonight waiting to debate Mr Abbott on the economy," she told reporters.

Mr Abbott showed no signs of succumbing to the pressure.

"I'm going to face up to the people of Queensland for a full hour and I'm not going to cut down on their time to do something that we should have done yesterday," Mr Abbott told reporters in Gladstone...

On Tuesday night, Mr Abbott went to ABC TV studios after offering Ms Gillard a televised 30-minute debate. She ignored the challenge.

Just because she is PM surely doesn't give her the right to gatecrash a pre-planned event.

 

[derty]

The Secular Party seem about the most sensible of all at the moment: http://www.secular.org.au/
Might seriously consider voting for them in the Senate.

 

[IFocus]

Dear Michael Pascoe,

You have once again hit the nail on the head.

Thank you

http://www.theage.com.au/business/the-big-tax-lie-is-coming-to-bite-us-20100818-128pi.html

Thanks Mofra missed that one Pascoe is certainly on the money.

 

[Calliope]

The people's forum tonight was a non-event. It was exceedingly boring. Abbott tried a bit harder than Gillard to answer the questions, but we learned nothing new.

No questions really put them on the spot and those that tried received long boring non-answers. How the audience kept awake during Gillard's session is beyond me. It was hard yakka watching it, but with the help of a few glasses I persevered.

 

[noco]

The people's forum tonight was a non-event. It was exceedingly boring. Abbott tried a bit harder than Gillard to answer the questions, but we learned nothing new.

No questions really put them on the spot and those that tried received long boring non-answers. How the audience kept awake during Gillard's session is beyond me. It was hard yakka watching it, but with the help of a few glasses I persevered.

Out of 200 people in the audience, Gillard received 85 votes to Abbott 78. So the 40 are either Green voters and those who still hve not made up their minds.

Yes it all was a bit boring.

 

[Calliope]

Out of 200 people in the audience, Gillard received 85 votes to Abbott 78. So the 40 are either Green voters and those who still hve not made up their minds.

I don't think so. The Greens would have voted for Gillard. I don't think there were any there who hadn't made up their minds previously. Abbott had no doubt that one nasty questioner was a Labor stooge.

 

[Calliope]

Nobody asked Gillard last night about how she would be rewarding Bill Shorten and Senator Arbib for their role in the coup that toppled Rudd, if she wins.

Now the question needs to be asked what job she would give Tim Mathieson. If she wins, his job in real estate would be very iffy, especially as his job is merely a front for Labor fund raising.

Mr Mathieson, a former hairdresser and hair products salesman, was employed by Mr Dadon as a property consultant last year despite having no property experience.

The appointment also followed Ms Gillard and Mr Mathieson leading a delegation of Australian MPs to Israel as part of the first Australia-Israel Leadership Forum, founded by Mr Dadon. The appointment sparked controversy on two fronts: the possibility of special planning treatment for Mr Dadon's inner-city apartment projects by the Brumby government, and concern over Ms Gillard for perceived uncritical support of Israel.

Last year Planning Minister Justin Madden contentiously called in and approved a Ubertas Group apartment project at 568 St Kilda Road, before Mr Mathieson worked for the group.

As part of the approval the government relaxed long-standing rules requiring setback from the adjoining lane. The government has also approved Ubertas projects at 505 St Kilda Road and at 350 Williams Street.

One senior Jewish business figure said Mr Mathieson faced a career change if Labor won. ''She [Ms Gillard] needs to get him another job, and I'll be very surprised if she doesn't.''

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/mathieson-job-on-the-line-20100818-12f4l.html

 

[Mofra]

Out of 200 people in the audience, Gillard received 85 votes to Abbott 78. So the 40 are either Green voters and those who still hve not made up their minds.

Yes it all was a bit boring.

People are just sick of both leaders playing it safe. Gillard offered nothing new, except for a focus on positives in the opening monolgue which is a little different to the way the campaign has been rolled out. Abbott keeps playing it safe (the "New Abbott") so his role as offical Liberal Headkicker of the past 15 years is kept out of public view.

I'd be interested to see a graph of the major parties' primary vote share over the past few decades. I'd expect to see a drop in support overall.

 

[Mofra]

Whether the Labor Party win or lose this election there will be turmoil amongst the unions and Labor Party factions with lots of 'blood left on the floor.
Vhttp://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/labor-blood-will-flow-over-rudd-dumping-says-union-boss-20100818-12aw4.html

There always will be whilst complete headcases like Dean Mighell hold positions of power within militant unions. The guy makes Mark Latham look sensible and calm.

 

[noco]

Whether the Labor Party win or lose this election there will be turmoil between the unions and the various factions in the Labor Party. There will be 'lots of blood left on the floor'.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-elect...d-dumping-says-union-boss-20100818-12aw4.html

 

[Calliope]

I neglected to point out in my post (#692) on Tim Mathieson, that the SMH lifted the story from The Age and The Age is biased against the Israeli state. So they are not happy with Gillard cosying up to the Israelis. It is one point the major parties agree on.

 

[drsmith]

Did anyone from the media ask Julia at her National Press Club address today whether a price on carbon would be introduced during the next term of a Labor government.

Bob Brown was was adamant at his National Press Club address yesterday that it would.

 

[sinner]

I just got an email from GetUp asking me to join their Adopt-a-Booth campaign. The idea is that since 10% of voters make up their mind as they enter the booth, GetUp wants volunteers to stand around and inform voters of where all the major parties stand on 14 key issues. Here is the scorecard they want people to hand out:

But apparently from the FAQ the parties are changing their policy statements so rapidly now that:

Policies from the major parties on our key election issues were changing right up to the final days, and we wanted to have the most accurate scorecards we can. As a result, the scorecards have just been finalised which unfortunately means there wasn't enough time to have them printed and delivered to all our volunteers, especially those in regional areas.

http://www.getup.org.au/community/gettogethers/series.php?id=30
http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/election2010&id=1344
https://www.getup.org.au/files/campaigns/electiondayvolunteerguidefinal.pdf

I make no partisan claim or basis for this scorecard, just thought I would post it for interests sake.

 

[wayneL]

I just got an email from GetUp asking me to join their Adopt-a-Booth campaign. The idea is that since 10% of voters make up their mind as they enter the booth, GetUp wants volunteers to stand around and inform voters of where all the major parties stand on 14 key issues. Here is the scorecard they want people to hand out:

I oppose such simplistic/leading questioning.

For instance - "Stop our rising pollution within the next term of government". Does the questioner mean general pollution or do they mean co2 exclusively?

Disingenuous at best IMO.

 

[drsmith]

When did the Coalition change their policy on mandatory internet filtering ?