2010 Federal Election

[Calliope]

Yes I was struck by how presidential and imperturbable he looked.

I wonder how (current Foreign Minister) Stephen Smith is feeling about this 'make Rudd Foreign Minister' talk - must think he's become invisible.

All the same, if they are going to have Rudd in the cabinet, they'd be mad not to make him Foreign Minister. Get him out of the country and out of harms way, he can tool around over there at the UN, happy as. Smith is competent enough to do well in another portfolio.

Not too logical Logique. The Foreign affairs job would give him the opportunity to make infinite mischief overseas. He has a head start over the unknown Gillard in the way he has lobbied overseas leaders. He is well known overseas and apparently liked by Obama and other leaders. However in the country our future depends on (the rat f*****s) his influence has disappeared

He is the one most would identify with Australia. As for Gillard...it's Julia who?

 

[BrightGreenGlow]

Lazy no hopers? How about all those hard working people working under "work choices" conditions that were at work by 7.30 this morning, will work hard all day meeting job requirements that match the conditions of $1 day paid workers in third world countries, will be under pressure to perform all day until 4.30 pm. Working hard so some company director can live a luxury life and help supply income through dividends etc for others. Fair shake of the sauce bottle.

Get real. Look beyond your protected lifestyle, protected by those that work hard ALL their life.

There are two sides to every story

There might be two sides. However, those same 7:30am working people should be lucky to have a job and not live elsewhere. Maybe the big cats get paid too much but it's better than handing out free money all the time and ending up in Debt, Killing people, destroying the mining sector and putting our broadband network further in the dark ages with the NBN.

 

[nioka]

Q; What did the uni graduate say to the hard working honest man?
A; "Do you want fries with that?"

Look around nioka. It seems your prejudices towards people with education are starting to show. Very narrow minded point of view there Big Fella.

I have a uni degree. Worked hard to get it as a mature age student. I've employed plenty of people with degrees and plenty without. I've mixed it with the top and the bottom and I've found idiots at both levels but the percentage of idiots is low generally and genuine people are just as likely to be found at both levels. I've one prejudice, I loathe people that have a tendency towards "I am holier than thou". There are a few posting on these forums but thankfully only a minority. I have no prejudice against educated people as long as they dont think they know it all because of a little piece of paper and a gown and hat proves it.

I rest my case. Next subject please. Back to stocks, for a Friday it is not too bad today.

 

[pilots]

Lazy no hopers? How about all those hard working people working under "work choices" conditions that were at work by 7.30 this morning, will work hard all day meeting job requirements that match the conditions of $1 day paid workers in third world countries, will be under pressure to perform all day until 4.30 pm. Working hard so some company director can live a luxury life and help supply income through dividends etc for others. Fair shake of the sauce bottle.

Get real. Look beyond your protected lifestyle, protected by those that work hard ALL their life.

There are two sides to every story

Nioka, why not do what I did, I did not like the job, so I moved on until I found one that I liked. Nioka you need company directors getting LOTS and LOTS of money, you see they are the people that hire people. If Labor had its way we would all be the same, but never for get this, ONLY RICH PEOPLE HIRE PEOPLE, poor people hire NO ONE. I am now a self funded retire still paying TAX,

 

[Mofra]

Dontcha love democracy - whether you've a string of uni degrees or barely educated, your vote is equal.

A degree means you are qualified, not necessarily educated in the truest sense of the word

 

[nioka]

There might be two sides. However, those same 7:30am working people should be lucky to have a job and not live elsewhere.

Shouldn't we all thank our lucky stars for that, particularly those that are getting benefit from those that were on the job at 7.30 am. I went fishing at 5AM today and there was plenty of action going on even at that time of the day. Ambulance entering the hospital as I drove past. Imagine the action there by some of the labor supporters. Maybe the sick and injured appreciate them being on the job. Thats the REAL world.

 

[moXJO]

ONLY RICH PEOPLE HIRE PEOPLE

I don't think small business owners would agree with this statement. However those that want to achieve more for themselves, use leverage by hiring other people to increase their chances of being richer.

 

[trainspotter]

I have a uni degree. Worked hard to get it as a mature age student. I've employed plenty of people with degrees and plenty without. I've mixed it with the top and the bottom and I've found idiots at both levels but the percentage of idiots is low generally and genuine people are just as likely to be found at both levels. I've one prejudice, I loathe people that have a tendency towards "I am holier than thou". There are a few posting on these forums but thankfully only a minority. I have no prejudice against educated people as long as they dont think they know it all because of a little piece of paper and a gown and hat proves it.

I rest my case. Next subject please. Back to stocks, for a Friday it is not too bad today.

What's the air like up there nioka? I did not know we were in a litiguous situation where you had to appeal to the jury and "rest your case"? Or are you putting your brief "case" on the ground as you are tired of carrying it around because it is stuffed full of money?

 

[BrightGreenGlow]

Shouldn't we all thank our lucky stars for that, particularly those that are getting benefit from those that were on the job at 7.30 am. I went fishing at 5AM today and there was plenty of action going on even at that time of the day. Ambulance entering the hospital as I drove past. Imagine the action there by some of the labor supporters. Maybe the sick and injured appreciate them being on the job. Thats the REAL world.

Yeah lucky there are ambulances Nioka. I'm surprised the ALP in QLD haven't sold them yet? You seem to like the world we live in??? :S

 

[Calliope]

A degree means you are qualified, not necessarily educated in the truest sense of the word

Yes we had a doctor in Queensland who proved this point. He was called Dr Death.

There is a condition where people often claim they are competent when they are too incompetent to know they are incompetent.

:topic Sorry about that but you have to jump in whenever there is a window of opportunity.

 

[BrightGreenGlow]

Just looking at a new article today at news.com.au

"Results: Campaign comebacks
Thanks for voting!
Who would you rather vote for?
Kevin Rudd
13.39% (220 votes)
John Howard
64.94% (1067 votes)
Julia or Tony
9.49% (156 votes)
None of the above
12.17% (200 votes)
Total votes: 1643

Go Johnny!

 

[trainspotter]

Gilard not afraid of BER scrutiny ? Funny how Brad Orgill could find anything amongst the 254 complaints about rorting. According to the report they were just that ...... "complaints" ??????

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-elect...-out-by-up-to-12-per-cent-20100806-11lpi.html

 

[derty]

There is a condition where people often claim they are competent when they are too incompetent to know they are incompetent..

Yes it is called the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Most commonly displayed on climate change discussion threads.

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which an unskilled person makes poor decisions and reaches erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to realize their mistakes.[1] The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their own ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, while the highly skilled underrate their abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

 

[nioka]

Yes we had a doctor in Queensland who proved this point. He was called Dr Death.

There is a condition where people often claim they are competent when they are too incompetent to know they are incompetent.

:topic Sorry about that but you have to jump in whenever there is a window of opportunity.

Ah it's great to see something we actually agree on. I actually spent some time in the Bundy hospital. Lucky I didn't need an operation and luckier still that i didn't get one that I didn't need.

Another fact from my numerous visits to hospitals; The older nurses without degrees were better and worked harder than the newer ones with the University degree.

 

[Calliope]

Is it just possible that the Labor strategists will cannibilise the old Julia and the old Rudd and come up with a composite Gillirudd?

 

[trainspotter]

Is it just possible that the Labor strategists will cannibilise the old Julia and the old Rudd and come up with a composite Gillirudd?

Ruddiculous proposal Calliope. Kevin Gillard and Julia Rudd have a secret lovechild ...... see piccy below. His name is Bill Shorten

 

[Happy]

Is it just possible that the Labor strategists will cannibilise the old Julia and the old Rudd and come up with a composite Gillirudd?

I thought about it too.

As soon as Labor Party machine realised they have little or no chance with Kevin, they came up with FEMale as natural progression next choice will be Native Australian with Sorry MK2 flavour. or some boat refugee.

As we’ve got to giv’em a chance.

 

[IFocus]

Found this interesting shows Abbott really is a..........

The Australian has been more critical of Tony Abbott than The Age writes Geoff Elliott in The Australian.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...n-both-campaigns/story-e6frgd0x-1225901842911

 

[wayneL]

Found this interesting shows Abbott really is a..........

Eh?

Your Orwellian controllers have trained you too well.

 

[IFocus]

And John Howard.

AKA Lying little Rodent