2010 Federal Election

[Calliope]

Just like litle johnny, blair and bush on Iraq, Saddam kept em all in check bit now the terrorists are running the show. Iran, Pakistan and the entire iddle East is a time Bomb. Of course Saddam was okay whilst trading with the US, he made the mistake of selling oil out the back door.

What bought this on??? Are you still confused? :shake:

This thread is about the election. You should take Comrade Gillard's advice and move forward.

 

[explod]

What bought this on??? Are you still confused? :shake:

This thread is about the election. You should take Comrade Gillard's advice and move forward.

You, et al., had moved the discussion to intelligence but if you cannot explain, then move on forward we shall.

 

[wayneL]

Wayne, I know almost nothing about Sweden. If you could give us a synopsis of their situation, I'd much appreciate it.

Sweden is often touted as a model Socialist economy. While it is true that it is a welfare state with many state owned businesses, the driving force behind their economy is in fact the private sector, it is a mixed rather than a socialist economy. Sweden succeeds in spite of state intervention in the economy, not because of it.

This is the reason for my comments above.

 

[Calliope]

Some of the preselections made by the Liberals and the LNP makes you wonder if they are really trying. Why they nominated that fat clown for Chifley is a mystery. Of course he had no chance of winning, but he had great potential to make the Libs look like idiots.

In the winnable seat of Longman in Qld their candidate is a kid of 19 who is still wet behind the ears. He is not only young but he doesn't even look his age. He still has his adolescent pimples.

 

[BrightGreenGlow]

I still cannot see how any of the following groups of people could possibly think of voting for Labor.
+ Telstra shareholders
+ Anyone who wants the full version of the internet, not China's.
+ Government employees of QLD
+ Anyone who works in the mining industry
+ Anyone that has Superannuation

I don't understand why Labor is a head in the interest polls? Even the women that I know haven't bought Labor's sex change novelty.

 

[lil smoochie]

noone good to vote for, and no-one good enough in Australia to even replace any of them.

Just received a letter from Mr Joe Hockey promising a whole bunch of 'real action' blahblahblah.

I'm going to close my eyes and pick one out of the hat to vote.

I don't care anymore, we're all DOOOOMED either way!

 

[pixel]

Here is the latest candidate. He's fixed ASF, he'll fix Australia for good.

We're all right behind Joe Blow for PM

 

[GumbyLearner]

Just like litle johnny, blair and bush on Iraq, Saddam kept em all in check bit now the terrorists are running the show. Iran, Pakistan and the entire iddle East is a time Bomb. Of course Saddam was okay whilst trading with the US, he made the mistake of selling oil out the back door.

spare me pal

Yeah Little Johnny and Al Downer will never live down oil for food for weapons in Iraq. It is funny how so many assume that the cr@p only flows in one direction and down onto ALP. Sometimes it does flow down on the Little Johnnys of this world.

Whatever you do don't mention bailing out little Johnny's brother Stan Howards' business. Or the fact that Al Downer Iraqi deals didn't turn into "a thing that battered" his career.

 

[Mofra]

Maybe the Sex Party? At least they seem to promote individual's rights...

They certainly have a different policy on inflation :

 

[J&M]

Here is the latest candidate. He's fixed ASF, he'll fix Australia for good.

We're all right behind Joe Blow for PM

Now that is so funny well done !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wont ask where you found it or who produced it
just cracked me up big time

Joe's the MAN

 

[explod]

Whatever you do don't mention bailing out little Johnny's brother Stan Howards' business. Or the fact that Al Downer Iraqi deals didn't turn into "a thing that battered" his career.

Funny the little ole party they were having on this thread seems to have stopped. Other beings with other thoughts do not equate with the intelligence it seems.

Good one Gumby

 

[drsmith]

They certainly have a different policy on inflation :

One could imagine they would actually encourage stagflation and hyperinflation

 

[So_Cynical]

I think any person who considers them self a socialist democrat (AKA Labor Party supporter) cannot by definition be objective. Social democracy flies in the face of human nature itself; it has never worked successfully as a system, ever, without the the influence of the capitalistic spirit to prop it up.

One need only look to any purportedly successful socialist state to see that it is the profit motive at the root of its success, AKA capitalism. Social democracy has always spoilt the work of the producers by elevating the non-producers. Social democracy has only ever placated the producers via political spin, warts and all "no-frills" analysis will always see socialist ideology on the outer

By any objective measure, this is counter-productive, ergo for social democrats, objectivity must be supplanted by ideology.

LOL the first couple of times i read your post i thought you were being to deep and meaningful for me to get my head around...then it slowly became clear that you think i cant be objective simply because i disagree with you.

I think anyone that thinks that a person having a leftist political view somehow excludes them from being able to think and see objectively, is probably missing a little objectivity themselves.

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Back on topic and away from the personal...i though Tony did ok on the 7.30 report tonight, a couple of times he wanted to um and ah and even have a giggle, but stopped himself and actually sounded a little prime-ministerial...the only time he looked uncomfortable was when work no-choices was brought up.

 

[drsmith]

and high interest rates.

 

[wayneL]

LOL the first couple of times i read your post i thought you were being to deep and meaningful for me to get my head around...then it slowly became clear that you think i cant be objective simply because i disagree with you.

I think anyone that thinks that a person having a leftist political view somehow excludes them from being able to think and see objectively, is probably missing a little objectivity themselves.

So you don't have any countering logic?

 

[Calliope]

Other beings with other thoughts do not equate with the intelligence it seems.
Good one Gumby

If you are referring to you and gumby, you got that right. Not many signs of intelligent life there.

 

[noco]

This link from the Australian sums up Julia Gillard to a 'T'.

How can some voters be engrossed with her spin and her lies about what she really stands for?

This Prime Minister of ours is doing a real con job and the naive are falling for it.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...t-another-phoney/story-fn59niix-1225896765834

 

[drsmith]

Where do they stand on vertical fis......cal imbalance ?

 

[Julia]

In the winnable seat of Longman in Qld their candidate is a kid of 19 who is still wet behind the ears. He is not only young but he doesn't even look his age. He still has his adolescent pimples.

I was dismissive of him too, until I heard him speaking a few days ago and quite changed my mind. I'd vote for him if he were in my area.

I still cannot see how any of the following groups of people could possibly think of voting for Labor.

+ Anyone who wants the full version of the internet, not China's.

It's entirely likely that the Coalition would also support the internet filter.

+ Government employees of QLD

If you mean employees of the Qld State government, then I don't see the logic there. Federal Labor is not the same thing.
(I'm no fan of Labor, just disputing your logic.)

+ Anyone that has Superannuation

Why? What is the basis for this objection?

and away from the personal...i though Tony did ok on the 7.30 report tonight, a couple of times he wanted to um and ah and even have a giggle, but stopped himself and actually sounded a little prime-ministerial...the only time he looked uncomfortable was when work no-choices was brought up.

Wow, So cynical, that's a generous concession coming from you!
I agree: he has really improved and did pretty well tonight.
The reason he looks uncomfortable when Work Choices is raised is because he's genuinely divided on this, i.e. he almost certainly does still believe in some variation of it, but acknowledges that it has been rejected by the electorate.
In that acknowledgement, though, he has gone too far in the other direction and is letting down his business voters.

 

[SmellyTerror]

Trainspotter, according to Smelly I am an idiot and you are deluded. Smelly Terror got his name at school by bullying deluded idiots like you and me. He liked the title so much that he kept it.

Actually, I explicitly refrained from calling you an idiot. See? It's right there in the bit of my post that included the word "idiot".

You seem to be having a good go at proving me wrong, though.

And for Train, I said that he was deluded IF he thought Australia was presently at risk of double-digit inflation and a "fire-sale" of assets.

I don't think that's a radical position.

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Words. They're for reading.

...and now, something for everyone:

The Great Debate was a close-run contest, but in the end The Candidate I Support definitely defeated The Candidate I Dislike. They spoke to The Issues, where The Candidate I Support just waffled. There was some warmth there, some understanding, some wit – I liked the amusing crack The Candidate I Support made about The Candidate I Dislike: respectful but highlighting why it would be terrible for the country if The Candidate I Dislike were to win on August 21. The Candidate I Support looked serious, and spoke directly and plainly – where The Candidate I Dislike seemed rattled, scripted, unreal.

Both candidates understood what’s most important in this election: hysterical paranoia about the tiny number of people arriving by boat seeking refuge from persecution. I like the way The Candidate I Support is determined to stop this. The Candidate I Support also reassured me that the view I’d already adopted about the replacement of Kevin Rudd is entirely correct, which was nice. Where The Candidate I Dislike avoided answering the journalists’ questions, instead delivering lame talking points that wouldn’t persuade anyone, The Candidate I Support tackled them Prime Ministerially and gave me excellent reasons to vote for them.

In summary, I’m sure that The Debate helped many people who were thinking about voting for The Candidate I Dislike see through their shamefully negative and dishonest campaign, and converted them to our side.

Yup, a clear win for The Candidate I Support.

(From http://anonymouslefty.wordpress.com/ - whose nutty views I in no way endorse, but who at least seems to hate many of the people and things I hate)