2010 Federal Election

[disarray]

Julia Gillard combs her hair and smiles, and she is a "camwh0re"???

it's not about julia gillard, it's about her portrayal by the media. the media has changed their representation of her now she has a higher profile.

when she was a minister it was about what she said and did, now she is PM the media has taken the airbrush and photoshop skills to her image. i think this detracts from the serious things she represents like policy and her role as head of our government, and i object to the media manipulating people's images to suit their standards (which usually end up objectifying women).

I know you dont like muslims but perhaps you would prefer Julia to dress like this?

i think you're the one who needs to get over it.

 

[IFocus]

it's not about julia gillard, it's about her portrayal by the media. the media has changed their representation of her now she has a higher profile.

when she was a minister it was about what she said and did, now she is PM the media has taken the airbrush and photoshop skills to her image. i think this detracts from the serious things she represents like policy and her role as head of our government, and i object to the media manipulating people's images to suit their standards (which usually end up objectifying women).

Certainly more pressure on females when it comes to presentation Barnaby is a testament for that god love him.


Anyone see Crean today on insiders today a polished performance from an old war horse, came across as fairly genuine

 

[sam76]

Just watching the debat (because it seems to be on every channel)

To me it seems that the women in the audience are supporting Gillard simply because she's a woman.

The worm is constantly positive for the female viewers but yet moves inbetween + and - for Abbott.

Are the men the only ones actually listening to them?

 

[Duckman#72]

Holy Smoke!!!

Hold the front page - Tony's back in the game!!!!!!

Great performance tonight. Clearly outpointed Gillard. On several occasions she couldn't think to change course. Tony actually made some positive comments off the cuff. Julia didn't.

Well done. Great effort. I'm surprised.

Duckman

 

[noco]

Holy Smoke!!!

Hold the front page - Tony's back in the game!!!!!!

Great performance tonight. Clearly outpointed Gillard. On several occasions she couldn't think to change course. Tony actually made some positive comments off the cuff. Julia didn't.

Well done. Great effort. I'm surprised.

Duckman

Yes I agree, Abbott was intrepid and won the debate by a good nose. The Sky News judges were unanimous in their decision, however Channel 9, as per usual, hand picked their audience to give Gillard 63% to 37% Abbott.

It will be interesting to observe other polls which will no doubt be out and about tomorrow.

 

[Duckman#72]

Yes I agree, Abbott was intrepid and won the debate by a good nose. The Sky News judges were unanimous in their decision, however Channel 9, as per usual, hand picked their audience to give Gillard 63% to 37% Abbott.

It will be interesting to observe other polls which will no doubt be out and about tomorrow.

I watched it on ABC 24 - and it was great not to "be told by a worm" when either side was performing well or poorly.

Even allowing for my bias - how could it possibly have been 63% - 37%??? Gillard provided nothing of substance - continued to labor the point about Work Choices and didn't seem to acknowledge her part in any of the past 3 years of rubbish.

Duckman

 

[Wysiwyg]

Even allowing for my bias - how could it possibly have been 63% - 37%???
Duckman

37% represents the minority. Tony Abbot and followers are in the minority. Nothing wrong with that though. Someone has to lose.

 

[noco]

37% represents the minority. Tony Abbot and followers are in the minority. Nothing wrong with that though. Someone has to lose.

The current Courier Mail poll at 8.27 pm with some 430 voters has given Abbott 78.6% to Gillard 21.4%.

No doubt one would have to agree Channel 9 is biased with the 150 hand picked audience.

 

[Logique]

This is how you know that the ALP leader got owned tonight:

Fairfax journalist Annabel Crabb afterwards came onto ABC local radio in NSW. "....um...er..incredibly even...Abbott wants a higher company tax...um...er...Abbott wants a higher company tax...".

But later she came onto ABC TV, doubtless realizing in the interim that her journalistic reputation was at stake "...a deadheat..er...narrowly to Abbott..." (through clenched teeth). Poor Annabel, had she perhaps hoped to preside over the anticipated slaughter by Saint Julia?

Abbott's closing summation was killer. Absolutely owned Gillard.

To give heart to fellow Australians in decent (i.e. non NSW) states - the NSW state seat of Lindsay in Penrith, western Sydney - in a by-election this month was a swing of 25% away from the NSW Labor government - now Liberal held.

There is a God.

 

[drsmith]

I missed it (not delayed telecast in Perth like with sport). Did see an interview with Bob Brown on ABC 24. According to him, mining generates 179,000 jobs in Australia.

I'd like to see a debate between him and Tony Abbott.

 

[GumbyLearner]

Does anyone know where I can watch a replay?

Has anyone posted any links on the web yet?

I'd appreciate any links.

Thanks
GL.

 

[Wysiwyg]

I missed it (not delayed telecast in Perth like with sport). Did see an interview with Bob Brown on ABC 24. According to him, mining generates 179,000 jobs in Australia.

Bob didn't consider that "business" related to mining generates millions of jobs; from the engineering businesses to the I.T. businesses to the hire businesses to the transport businesses to the housing businesses to the retail stores to tourism businesses and even the pie vans make a living from mining.

Bobby Brown ... isn't he an American actor?

 

[noco]

Does anyone know where I can watch a replay?

Has anyone posted any links on the web yet?

I'd appreciate any links.

Thanks
GL.

I-pac 648 on Sky News.

 

[electronicmaster]

Any of these sound familiar?

Read my lips: no more taxes


Barack Obama's version of "read my lips NO NEW TAXES"


Of course this happens afterwards

 

[noco]

The current Courier Mail poll at 8.27 pm with some 430 voters has given Abbott 78.6% to Gillard 21.4%.

No doubt one would have to agree Channel 9 is biased with the 150 hand picked audience.

The latest Courier Mail poll 9.17 pm.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/cs/Sa...ndation/News_Poll/saveResult&site=CourierMail

 

[Julia]

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To me it seems that the women in the audience are supporting Gillard simply because she's a woman.

Certainly more pressure on females when it comes to presentation Barnaby is a testament for that god love him.

I'm really disappointed to think that women would vote for Ms Gillard purely because she's female. That's an indictment on those women. Surely we can leave gender out of it. It's just not relevant when it comes to running the country.

Anyone see Crean today on insiders today a polished performance from an old war horse, came across as fairly genuine

He got an incredibly easy interview from Barrie Cassidy who failed to challenge pretty much anything he said. The interview was notable, however, for the very clear warning Crean delivered to Kevin Rudd: i.e. 'shape up and become a team player or you're out'.

I watched it on ABC 24 - and it was great not to "be told by a worm" when either side was performing well or poorly.

Even allowing for my bias - how could it possibly have been 63% - 37%??? Gillard provided nothing of substance - continued to labor the point about Work Choices and didn't seem to acknowledge her part in any of the past 3 years of rubbish.

Duckman

Duckman, that discussion following the debate on Channel Nine would presumably have constituted people who usually watch "60 Minutes".
You can draw your own conclusions. It's probably the crappiest (not sure if that's a word?) waste of TV time that passes for current affairs ever.
That result is absolutely not mirrored anywhere else.

I was pleasantly surprised by both of them. It was a civil and reasonably sensible hour. My own view is that Tony Abbott is very much in the running, certainly equal pegging or slightly ahead of Ms Gillard this evening.
Kudos to both of them.

 

[So_Cynical]

Holy Smoke!!!

Hold the front page - Tony's back in the game!!!!!!

Great performance tonight. Clearly outpointed Gillard. On several occasions she couldn't think to change course. Tony actually made some positive comments off the cuff. Julia didn't.

Well done. Great effort. I'm surprised.

Duckman

LOL Duckman were we watching the same debate?

I couldn't honestly say i saw Tony out point Julia on anything...Julia came across as calm and in control, stuck to policy and the big picture and stayed on message...and seems to have a better message.

 

[Julia]

LOL Duckman were we watching the same debate?

I couldn't honestly say i saw Tony out point Julia on anything...Julia came across as calm and in control, stuck to policy and the big picture and stayed on message...and seems to have a better message.

LOL, So Cynical, you can hardly be considered to be objective.
If Ms Gillard had performed like a kindy kid, you'd still have seen her as outstandingly the winner!
It's a shame you're quite devoid of any objectivity.

 

[So_Cynical]

LOL, So Cynical, you can hardly be considered to be objective.
If Ms Gillard had performed like a kindy kid, you'd still have seen her as outstandingly the winner!
It's a shame you're quite devoid of any objectivity.

I consider myself very objective...i know what's what and what's not, i didn't declare Julia the winner, i didn't carry on as others have in this and other political threads...i simply stated that i never saw Tony clearly out point Gillard (as Duckman said) at any time.

In election debates its the governments to lose, its the Govt that carry's the bulk of the down side risk...and Julia didn't lose it just as Tony didn't win it.

Have to say im amazed at the political clout that the boat people/asylum seekers issue has...pretty amazing how a few thousand people who wont be voting can have such an influence.

 

[noco]

I consider myself very objective...i know what's what and what's not, i didn't declare Julia the winner, i didn't carry on as others have in this and other political threads...i simply stated that i never saw Tony clearly out point Gillard (as Duckman said) at any time.

In election debates its the governments to lose, its the Govt that carry's the bulk of the down side risk...and Julia didn't lose it just as Tony didn't win it.

Have to say im amazed at the political clout that the boat people/asylum seekers issue has...pretty amazing how a few thousand people who wont be voting can have such an influence.

So_Cinical, I'm afraid you are very much alone tonight. Sleep well and wake in the morning to reality. Julia lost the debate without a doubt.