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A blonde moment, Homophobic. I must have Pauline Hanson on my mind. Now there is a candidate for PM.????????????????
 
nioka said:
Call me xenophobic if you like but I doubt that anyone that does not have normal family values would understand normal family requirements and be able to fulfill the wishes of normal families in this day and age. Therefore he is out on that basis with me.
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Call me Peladophobic but I get the feeling that you're essentially marginalizing anyone that doesn't fit into your perceived ideal of family. I'll guess one mum and one dad is the ideal for you. Given that Two Parent families (and there is no break-down in the census data about re-marriages after divorce and no distinguishing between families with two mums or two dads) accounts for 39.59% of households...well perhaps ideal isn't as common as you think. /sarcasm

Cheers

Sir O
 
Sir Osisofliver said:
Call me Peladophobic but I get the feeling that you're essentially marginalizing anyone that doesn't fit into your perceived ideal of family. I'll guess one mum and one dad is the ideal for you. Given that Two Parent families (and there is no break-down in the census data about re-marriages after divorce and no distinguishing between families with two mums or two dads) accounts for 39.59% of households...well perhaps ideal isn't as common as you think. /sarcasm

Cheers

Sir O
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There is the ideal and there are variations from the ideal but then there are extreme opposites to the ideal. As someone that was brought up for half my young life in a single parent family (my father died when I was 2 years old) and spent the second half of my young life with step brothers and step sisters I understand variations. Anyone with an arrangement that hasn't a possibility of providing future generations should not be trusted with the task of providing for my future generations. I do have great grand children to think about. I doubt that BB will have any great grandchildren.

So I still say there is normal, there are acceptable variations of the norm and to me at least there are variations that are not acceptable.:):(:2twocents
 
nioka said:
I doubt that BB will have any great grandchildren.

So I still say there is normal, there are acceptable variations of the norm and to me at least there are variations that are not acceptable.:):(:2twocents
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Which makes Sir Osisofliver's take fairly spot on.

Sorry however about your tough circumstances as a kid but is probably why you so narrowly wish things were all normal.

Bob Brown is a gentleman in all respects and tries his absolute and honest best for what he believes. His persuasion, and many forget this fact, is neurological, some assert that it is a choice but that type of thing is driven by the way one is made. Being born a certain way is one thing but having attitudes due to life's experience is another thing altogether.

Only my opinion of course and at the same time respect yours.
 
nioka said:
So I still say there is normal, there are acceptable variations of the norm and to me at least there are variations that are not acceptable.:):(:2twocents
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You are right. I don't think Australians have reached the stage where they could accept a same sex married couple installed in the Lodge.
 
nioka said:
There is the ideal and there are variations from the ideal but then there are extreme opposites to the ideal. As someone that was brought up for half my young life in a single parent family (my father died when I was 2 years old) and spent the second half of my young life with step brothers and step sisters I understand variations. Anyone with an arrangement that hasn't a possibility of providing future generations should not be trusted with the task of providing for my future generations. I do have great grand children to think about. I doubt that BB will have any great grandchildren.

So I still say there is normal, there are acceptable variations of the norm and to me at least there are variations that are not acceptable.:):(:2twocents
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So just gay men then, coz lesbians have everything they need to provide a future generation. How...specific of you Nioka. And of course gay men having no possibility of providing future generations (even though they are quite capable of providing for future generations) are all emotionally crippled and disconnected from the rest of society. Yeah that sounds like a gay man - not in touch with his emotions. /sarcasm.

So how should we manage this unacceptable portion of our population Nioka? How do we treat them differently? Should we do a little "cleansing"? Get some large pink buses and drive them all to Alice Springs and leave them there?

Nioka - what happens if your son or grandson turns out to be gay? Will you attempt to "de-program" him? Ostracize him? Pray him straight?

Cheers

Sir O
 
nioka said:
Anyone with an arrangement that hasn't a possibility of providing future generations should not be trusted with the task of providing for my future generations.
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Xactly!! So you would agree that Priests and the Catholics church as a whole should shut up and stop preaching because they have no stake in the future? They are a long way away from 'normal' and therefore should not be trusted.

Sir Osisofliver said:
Nioka - what happens if your son or grandson turns out to be gay? Will you attempt to "de-program" him? Ostracize him? Pray him straight?
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Nah wouldn't happen, real men don't produce poofs :cool:
 
Its the same argument that has been used by some of the rat bag right-wingers of the Liberal/Nats (think it was Heffernan) that Gillard is not fit to be PM as she has not had children.

Reproductive capacity has nothing to do with moral or intellectual capacity.

I cannot believe that this thread has diverged into a discussion about homosexuality? Personally I believe we have matured a great deal as a society and the electorate would be more than willing to accept a homosexual politician as prime minister.
 
Trembling Hand said:
Xactly!! So you would agree that Priests and the Catholics church as a whole should shut up and stop preaching because they have no stake in the future? They are a long way away from 'normal' and therefore should not be trusted.
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Same applies for the pope as for Bob Brown. I wouldn't want the pope as PM either. I have no argument with them preaching and I have no argument with what Bob Brown does in his own life but I wouldnt want either of them having any say in my life.

That is what this is all about.
 
Trembling Hand said:
yeah it understandable. They may preach 'gayness' to you.

just lol sad :(
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Couldn't give a toss what they preach to me but I don't want them making rules that I have to live with.

Can't you see there is a difference. Then again why is the hand trembling?
 
nioka said:
Couldn't give a toss what they preach to me but I don't want them making rules that I have to live with.
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Such as what exactly?? Exactly what is it they they will be making you do??? what will you have to live with under a gay politician?

Or is it just general good old homophobia thats the real problem here?

nioka said:
Then again why is the hand trembling?
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I see I'm dealing with an imbecile child here.
 
Trembling Hand said:
Such as what exactly?? Exactly what is it they they will be making you do??? what will you have to live with under a gay politician?

Or is it just general good old homophobia thats the real problem here?
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C'mon TH didn't you know that Gay men plan to take over the world!!! I can just see the glorious future after the revolution.

Once our gay overlords are in power we will have Super fridays where everyone has to be all super to each other and everyone wears pink and are like totally accessorized with super hair.

We'll have a national Kylie Minogue day and she will be declared a national treasure and just so cute darling.

Sydney Mardi Gras budget will explode and it will be a month-long event.

All male trousers and pants will be sold with window cut-outs in the butt cheek areas.

We will become world leaders in Hairdressing and the most popular names for boys will be Lance, Rock and Bwuce.

Hairy testosterone fueled rebels will be brutally re-educated with facial moisturisers and manicures and long deep and meaningful discussions about their feelings.

Ok I'm having too much fun... time to stop.

Cheers

Sir O
 
Sir O .... it appears that you have forgotten to add in the obligatory addage of /taking the p!ss in your last post. Some of us here might take you seriously and become deeply offended by your whimsical approach to such gay abandon.

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Bob Brown will hold the balance of power in the senate as the proleteriat have abandoned both Liberal and Labor due to their arrogance.

I reckon we start a new party here in ASF and call it LABERAL. This way we can take both ideals of the Left & Right to form a solid CENTRE to turn this crapola we are being force fed from CANTberra into something positive for a change. I am sick to death of the excrement that passes as politics these days. We get the government we deserve because after all it is YOU that voted for them. :mad:
 
In all honesty, there's such a wealth of crapitude in the major parties that pretty much anything has got to get some support in the next election.

Someone start the Bloody Angry Party. I'd vote for that.

Re: Teh Gayness Of The Bob: I had no idea he was gay, but then I think it's about as relevant to his politics and my vote as his eye colour or head bumps.

Funny, I never hear people saying they wouldn't vote for Julia on the grounds that she's got no kids... Plenty about her politics, but never her barren womb's lack of investment in future generations. Might need to start checking young Liberals for fertility before they get too far up in the machine. Or... is that where all those stories come from?

Surely Bob Brown has enough nutty politics for people to object to that his preference in genitalia wouldn't get a look in?

Having said that, I'm probably going to vote for the Greens, no matter how nutty. I disagree with them a lot, but I'd feel like a sucker to give the nod to the other guys, and at least the Greens have balls. I like balls...

...:p:

Anyway, from what I can see, politicians are out to screw everyone. What kind of sexuality is that?
 
trainspotter said:
We get the government we deserve because after all it is YOU that voted for them. :mad:
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Ahh the joys of compulsory voting, where the sheeple are forced to vote, so just go with those who have the most media saturation.
 
There is another new party. the Australian Protectionist Party. Registered in most states and represented in all. Probably has a lot of Hanson supporters so that may make it a good topic for ASF lamblasting. Check them out on www.protectionist.com. I doubt tht Bob Brown would get along with them any more than Tony the Monk:)
 
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