Schapelle Corby - Innocent or Guilty?

[Honourable]

Now hang on a minute, the Corby team did get a sample of the Drugs.

When the Bali Police refused to give the AFP a sample of the drugs for testing, Vasu Rasiah, a member of her legal team, did steal a sample of the drugs. However, as the sample had been stolen, no one with any authority in Australia was prepared to carry out tests on it, even though Vasu was prepared to fly to Australia with it.

Also, since the sample had been stolen, and the official chain of evidence had been broken, any test results would have been dismissed by the court.

 

[pilots]

When the Bali Police refused to give the AFP a sample of the drugs for testing, Vasu Rasiah, a member of her legal team, did steal a sample of the drugs. However, as the sample had been stolen, no one with any authority in Australia was prepared to carry out tests on it, even though Vasu was prepared to fly to Australia with it.

Also, since the sample had been stolen, and the official chain of evidence had been broken, any test results would have been dismissed by the court.

WHO STOPPED THE TEST, one person stoped it , tell me who that was.

 

[nulla nulla]

Honarable, Sorry mate but you have got it VERY WRONG. The company that I used to work for still have a staff house in Bali, they have up to ten Expats staying in it 50% of the time, now some of the young ones do dabble in drugs, you cant stop them, they can tell you that for years the local grass is jungle grown, the Gold from Aussie has ten times more THC in it, MORE bang for your dollar, I have crew changed many many times in Bali, IT IS TRUE.
Now only last week some Dhead was caught trying to take Drugs in to Bali, LOTS of people have been caught doing it, its just that not all of them end up in the news.
Getting anything in to Bali is EASY, all you have to do is pay the right people.
Now as to the testing of the Drugs, the Corby team had samples of the Drug she was caught with, why did they not test it????????????

I wonder if a blood and urine test at the time would have proven positive and matched the dna of the drugs in her boogie bag?

All this hoo haa about the sovereign country of Indonesia not making available a sample of the marijuana taken from Schapelles boogie board bag, to Australian agencies to test. Get real. Since when has any sovereign country been obliged to have evidence tested by another sovereign country? Particularly a country where one of their nationals has just been aprehended at the international airport, carrying a boogie bagged stuffed with drugs to the immigration/customs check point.

Caught, tried, convicted and sentenced.

 

[explod]

I wonder if a blood and urine test at the time would have proven positive and matched the dna of the drugs in her boogie bag?

All this hoo haa about the sovereign country of Indonesia not making available a sample of the marijuana taken from Schapelles boogie board bag, to Australian agencies to test. Get real. Since when has any sovereign country been obliged to have evidence tested by another sovereign country? Particularly a country where one of their nationals has just been aprehended at the international airport, carrying a boogie bagged stuffed with drugs to the immigration/customs check point.

Caught, tried, convicted and sentenced.

When are exhibits destroyed before appeal or retrial? when there may be something to cover up or there is no real law.

On basic humanitarian grounds the whole show stinks.

 

[JimBob]

What happens if she notices that her boogie board bag was 4-5kg heavier upon arrival in Bali and a lot bulkier that when she left Australia and she just leaves her bag at the airport instead of trying to then take it through Customs?

 

[Honourable]

Honarable, Sorry mate but you have got it VERY WRONG. the Gold from Aussie has ten times more THC in it, MORE bang for your dollar

Now only last week some Dhead was caught trying to take Drugs in to Bali, LOTS of people have been caught doing it, its just that not all of them end up in the news.

On the first point, I'm not going to argue the point any further. You think your right, and I think I'm right. Even if there had been a motive for Schapelle to take drugs to Bali, and I don't believe there was, would she place the drugs in clear plastic bags, put these plastic bags on TOP of her boogie-board (no attempt to hide them), in an unlocked boogie-board bag, with her name on it, and attempt to take them to a country with the death penalty for drug trafficking? Would she then willingly open this bag to reveal them, without even being asked to do so by the Customs Officer? Would she then beg for every kind of investigation into her crime that she could think of, just to make sure that she really was found guilty? I don't think so!

Incidentally, did you check out the link on Aussie Gold that I provided?

On the second point, I did say COMMERCIAL quantities. I am well aware that there have been a few arrests of people over the years trying to take in small amounts for personal use, the most recent being Robert Mcjannett. He certainly made the news, just do a Google search and you will find plenty on him - see this link, one of many:
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/b...calls-in-addiction-doctors-20100331-reog.html

 

[Honourable]

What happens if she notices that her boogie board bag was 4-5kg heavier upon arrival in Bali and a lot bulkier that when she left Australia

The marijuana was in two space bags, one within the other. With the air sucked out of these bags, they are significantly less bulky than when fully opened. As such, it would have been quite easy not to notice the extra bulk.

Secondly, it was her brother James who took the boogie-board bag to the Customs counter. Because the carry handle had been cut at some stage in the bag's journey to Bali, James dragged the bag to the counter. Because it was not his bag anyway, he would not have noticed whether it was heavier than before. The only opportunity that Schapelle had to notice the extra weight was in the two seconds it took her to pick it up and place it on the Customs counter. Even if she had noticed it then, it would have been too late anyway.

 

[Muschu]

Hi Honourable

I hope this reads as constructive - because it is meant to be.

As I mentioned some time ago, I have no idea if SP is innocent or not.

Some posters to this thread clearly have minimal knowledge and are offering sarcastic or definitive views without having any understanding of active reading / listening. ie: They will not change their minds irrespecitive of what you may say. It is interesting that they do not have better things to do with their time.

Other posters have offered genuine comments - whether they agree with you or not.

I would suggest that this is an important topic of discussion that has done its time here and really belongs on a website where cultural, social and legal issues are [generally] better understood.

Wonder if I'll be criticised, obliquely or otherwise, for this one. I suspect so.

best wishes

Rick

 

[JimBob]

OK, thanks for the response.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Calliope, I never said that I have fallen IN love with Schapelle, I merely said that I love her like a daughter.

Every ardent supporter of Schapelle loves her, because those who know her, know what a lovely, selfless and compassionate person she is - not the drug smuggling bitch that most of you think she is.

She sounds a bit like Mother Theresa on your description. Can you cite some objective evidence of these incredible qualities.

gg

 

[todster]

Any pot smokin hippie can tell the diff between hydro and bush weed
My uneducated guess would be her brother was going to to pass it on to the inlaw and sell to the local expats as thats what there used to smoking and fund a nice family holiday and some.
Even if that was not the case i would have told them it was my board not let my sister take the rap.
Geez if she was caught in OZ Prolly a few K fine
It grows on the side of the road in Nepal
Whatever the deal she doesn't deserve what she got and should be pardoned now

 

[todster]

Next time you fly put a packet of potato chips in your main luggage and check them out when you open your suitcase,it might enlighten you

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Hi Honourable

I hope this reads as constructive - because it is meant to be.

As I mentioned some time ago, I have no idea if SP is innocent or not.

Some posters to this thread clearly have minimal knowledge and are offering sarcastic or definitive views without having any understanding of active reading / listening. ie: They will not change their minds irrespecitive of what you may say. It is interesting that they do not have better things to do with their time.

Other posters have offered genuine comments - whether they agree with you or not.

I would suggest that this is an important topic of discussion that has done its time here and really belongs on a website where cultural, social and legal issues are [generally] better understood.

Wonder if I'll be criticised, obliquely or otherwise, for this one. I suspect so.

best wishes

Rick

Muschu may I on behalf of all members of ASF criticise you obliquely and otherwise for this one.

gg

 

[newbie trader]

The name of this thread should reall be changed. Last time I checked she was guilty?

 

[Muschu]

Muschu may I on behalf of all members of ASF criticise you obliquely and otherwise for this one.

gg

Anticipated and understood - undertones inclusive.

However, more seriously, may I suggest it may be inappropriate for you to speak "on behalf of all members of ASF", obliquely or otherwise? I am one who has not appointed you my spokesman. Could there possibly be others?

Honourable - I suspect if you choose a different forum this non-productive stuff may slow.......

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Anticipated and understood - undertones inclusive.

However, more seriously, may I suggest it may be inappropriate for you to speak "on behalf of all members of ASF", obliquely or otherwise? I am one who has not appointed you my spokesman. Could there possibly be others?

Muschu, English is a beautiful language, if you choose to use it with nonsense multiple negatives in a question , you deserve an answer as written.

Calliope, I never said that I have fallen IN love with Schapelle, I merely said that I love her like a daughter.

Every ardent supporter of Schapelle loves her, because those who know her, know what a lovely, selfless and compassionate person she is - not the drug smuggling bitch that most of you think she is.

Before you nick off with rick, to a thread with no name, can you please provide some objective evidence for these qualities you attribute to Ms.Corby.

gg

 

[newbie trader]

Anticipated and understood - undertones inclusive.

However, more seriously, may I suggest it may be inappropriate for you to speak "on behalf of all members of ASF", obliquely or otherwise? I am one who has not appointed you my spokesman. Could there possibly be others?

Honourable - I suspect if you choose a different forum this non-productive stuff may slow.......

Rick,

Whenever I make an argument or express an opinion whether it be for a uni assignment or on this forum I expect to be criticised therefore I do not, generally, become upset when someone takes another view. You cannot, generally, say that one persons view is right or wrong. Anywhooo just with the comment you made before the one above...I was just wondering what unique knowledge you had on this matter that we all obviously don't? I would have thought that the only ones who truly know what happend is Schapelle and her close family. Anyway she was found guilty therefore I dont think anyone can say that she is not guilty rather they can only SPECULATE on what happend.

 

[Muschu]

Muschu, English is a beautiful language, if you choose to use it with nonsense multiple negatives in a question , you deserve an answer as written....
gg

Well at least your use of our language makes me smile gg. Multiple negatives? I am still chuckling.... Perhaps Honourable is guilty of mutiple positives?

I'm out of here. The temptation to continue is outweighed by the fruitlessness of doing so.

IMO, there are many beautiful languages - English being one. Let's use them clearly. Despite your comments I honestly try to do this. But keyboards are a limitation to full expression and sometimes a barrier or protection - again, in my view.


Tidur nyenyak semua dan mungkin kita memperoleh kebijaksanaan seperti yang kita usia.

 

[Muschu]

Rick,

Whenever I make an argument or express an opinion whether it be for a uni assignment or on this forum I expect to be criticised therefore I do not, generally, become upset when someone takes another view. You cannot, generally, say that one persons view is right or wrong. Anywhooo just with the comment you made before the one above...I was just wondering what unique knowledge you had on this matter that we all obviously don't? I would have thought that the only ones who truly know what happend is Schapelle and her close family. Anyway she was found guilty therefore I dont think anyone can say that she is not guilty rather they can only SPECULATE on what happend.

Whoops - just noticed this NT - sorry. Please let me make this clear.... I have no unique knowledge at all on any topic . I think I have said twice on this thread that I have no idea whether SC is guilty or not. I make no speculation on this because I have no intimate knowledge of what the truth is.

In saying this I am not arguing that Honourable is right or his opponents or questioners wrong.

I just don't like word playing -- never did as a Uni student, lecturer and person.

I hope this is clarifying as I read your post as positively intentioned.

 

[newbie trader]

I hope this is clarifying as I read your post as positively intentioned.

Very much so, thanks Rick.