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Sigh:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/you-won...1894044999.html

Particularly this line...

"We already have so many rules: we can't drink on these days, we can't go to these places, now we can't have group sex. About the only thing we can do these days is go to club functions, and just hang around other players. That's just isolating us more from the rest of the world, and it could lead to even more violent acts."

No hope.
 
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No chance you could pull it up out of your history and screen shot it is there?
 
From ABC 14 May 2009

SHARKS WON'T NAME GROUP SEX PLAYERS

Cronulla Sharks chairman Barry Pierce has refused to name other players involved in a group sex act in 2002.
The call to name the players comes after rugby league personality Matthew Johns was stood down from Channel Nine and the Melbourne Storm over his role in the incident.
Mr Pierce was the chairman of the club at the time of the incident and said the Sharks look back on the event with a sense of shame.
In a prepared statement, he said he was not in a position to give the names of the players and staff involved.
"There is simply not enough information at our disposal to avoid the risk of implicating those whose only involvement was to be on the same tour, in the same hotel or who entered a room unwittingly and walked away without understanding what was going on," he said.
"It would be incredibly damaging to an ex-player or staff member to be named who had nothing to do with the incident."
Mr Pierce has urged other players to come forward, saying his only role at the time was to tell all of the touring party to fully cooperate with police investigations.
"Matthew Johns has been man enough to apologise for his actions and so too should all involved," he said.
"I look back now appreciating that more should have been done on our part.
"I have supported the NRL board in the many changes it has made since 2004 in the area of educating (and where necessary punishing) players and I share the public's outrage at some of the events that have involved individuals in the game."
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Matthew is more and more of a scapegoat by the minute.
 
Kez180 said:
Article not found...

No chance you could pull it up out of your history and screen shot it is there?
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Does this link work better?
http://www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/...romps--rep-star/2009/05/13/1241894044999.html

Defiant rep star says group sex romps will keep happening

Jamie Pandaram | May 14, 2009

THE comments of one senior NRL representative player indicate how difficult it could be to change the sexual behaviour and attitudes of elite league players.

He warned group sex among NRL players would continue regardless of a warnings from chief executive David Gallop that unsavoury sexual acts would put their contracts at risk. The representative player told the Herald that his colleagues were left stunned by Gallop's hardline stance when no player had been convicted of sexual assault, adding that the caution would quickly be forgotten.

"It's fine for David Gallop to come out and say you can't have group sex but the last thing blokes will be thinking about on a Friday night at the club is David Gallop," said the player, speaking on the condition of anonymity. "I don't know how a chief executive can come out and say we can't have group sex if it's consensual. It's like discrimination because that is a person's private life. It's like saying you can't be homosexual, or you can't have such-and-such sexual preferences. How can he tell us what we can do in our private lives? What if there's more women than guys, is that wrong, too?

"We already have so many rules: we can't drink on these days, we can't go to these places, now we can't have group sex. About the only thing we can do these days is go to club functions, and just hang around other players. That's just isolating us more from the rest of the world, and it could lead to even more violent acts."

He said group sex was largely initiated by women, and therefore the players felt unfairly targeted by criticism swirling around the game since a report by Four Corners on Monday detailed the lasting psychological impact on a woman after an incident involving Cronulla players in 2002.

The report prompted Gallop to advise players that group sex was degrading to women, and he warned those who took part in such activities they could be kicked out of the game. "I think on any level it is still an extremely degrading experience," Gallop said on Tuesday. "It also has a lot of risk involved in it and players need to know that.

"If you are not on board with the change that we are endeavouring to implement then don't play rugby league."

However, the player said change would be difficult because women would continue to proposition them.

"Players get a lot of attention from girls in the clubs because they've got a high profile. That's not the players' fault," he said.

"Most of the time the girl goes back willingly and consents to everything, but sometimes regrets it when she wakes up in the morning and says, 'I didn't want that to happen,' and that's when the problems start.

"I don't know one single guy in the NRL who would resort to holding a woman down against her will or raping her, and nobody would condone that.

"I do see what they're saying about risk; you just never know how a girl's going to react afterwards. You're not supposed to say it publicly, but everyone knows that if you're polite afterwards and pay her cab fare home you usually don't have any problems."

He added that former players often told stories of their sexual exploits to the game's current generation. "Some of the stories you hear from the older guys, I wouldn't really say it was worse than what happens now but it was going on a long time ago, but there was just no media reports about it back then."

Another player said he believed group sex involving teammates was being phased out of the game, while several others refused to talk about the issue.
 
15 years ago I used to work with a very high profile AFL player. Couldn't wait for Monday mornings at work to get the low down on his/their exploits on the weekend. This sought of thing has been going on for decades. There are females out there who are effectivly AFL/NRL/NBL groupies who want to get into group sex with a few fine bodied athletes. Until you get rid of the groupies you'll always have this sought of problem within the sport. I actually feal sorry for MJ in all this and think it was absolutely disgusting what channel 9 did to one of it's own employees. Shame channel 9 shame.
 
it is no accident that this "story" broke during the budget. its called a "morality play". it is designed to take focus off important topics. distract the sheep etc.....

for instance...you still dont know who australia is borrowing all this money from, do you....!

and; you know more about matt johns indescretion than you do about the budget. and this is a shares forum!!!! imagine how clueless the general population is!!!!



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A rather different version of events here:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2397260/Sex-consensual-Johns

In her interview with The Press, the woman said she talked to some of the players when she was a waitress-kitchen hand at the Racecourse Hotel.

She bumped into the players at the Holy Grail in central Christchurch on the Thursday night (the night before the incident) and had drinks with them. They wanted her to go back to the hotel with her that night, "but I didn't because I've got a boyfriend and I'm not dirty".

On the Friday two players waited for her to finish work.

"I kind of wanted to leave, but they said come back to our room for a talk or whatever. I walked behind them because I kind of didn't want to go back. But I didn't think anything bad would happen," she said.

"They, like, left the sliding door unlocked or open, with the curtain pulled and the bathroom window open and stuff, so the whole team came back and knew about it. They knew what was happening.

"They sidled in and crawled along the floor where I couldn't see them and all came in, and climbed in through the windows and stuff, and next thing I knew everyone was in there.

"They are saying, `We didn't let it happen and it wasn't planned'. It was so planned."

The woman said the incident lasted a couple of hours and there were other girls in other rooms, but she believed them to be prostitutes.

"I'm quite young [19]. When I went in there I was wearing a blue T-shirt and black three-quarter pants. I wasn't all slutted up in, like, tights or whatever," she said.

"Matthew's married. They were the players, they started it off and they did lots of the main stuff, but then there were four other guys, five other guys ... who did heaps of gross other stuff and they're just as bad as those two.
 
most females i know that have boyfiends wouldnt have gone into that room with the two footy players.......because they REALLY ARENT DIRTY!

seems like the woman has a bad case of denial and guilt, and is looking for someone to blame it on..


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I think men climbing through windows to get to the girl is totally inconsistent with the fairy tale that she consented to the acts. She should be guilty about that? :banghead:
 
this topic has had more discussion than the budget.......here AND in mainstream media.

the sheep again, fell for the morality play.

what a joke.



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no one will ever know for sure

but i noticed the keywords " I had a boyfriend "

I am sure that he asked for an explanation of what happened at the time!

apparently the new thing for young gangbangers & spitroasters is to use their mobile phone to film the girl giving her consent first.

I wonder if Dave Gallop will find that acceptable
 
The partners of group sex addicts have good reason to be concerned. The chances of a player bringing home an STD infection are multiplied by the number of participants in the orgy. Still, they must have known the risks when they took them on.
 
How would people feel if she was a 39 year old woman?

How would people feel if it was her and just 2 guys?

How would people feel if it was found that the group sex was her idea?
 
One of the woman's former workmates was just on TV telling of how the woman was skiting about the incident for a week after it happened.

You'd have to suspect that it's a case of a grubby little tart who drops her pants for the boys, now bungs on a bit of an act because she sees the opportunity of selling her story and making some money.

Equally grubby are the low-life blokes who accommodated her, particularly Johns who was married at the time. His wife should have given him his marching orders and found herself a decent bloke who would treat her with respect.

And for anyone who thinks women don't behave like that, believe me, some of them do.
I've seen a woman srtip off at a party and offer to take on the boys, except that she was well known around town and nobody was willing to accept her offer and run the risk of cathing an STD.
 
scanspeak said:
How would people feel if she was a 39 year old woman?

How would people feel if it was her and just 2 guys?

How would people feel if it was found that the group sex was her idea?
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How would people feel if instead of 12 Rugby League Players it was 12 Muslim men?
 
metric said:
this topic has had more discussion than the budget.......here AND in mainstream media.

the sheep again, fell for the morality play.

what a joke.
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yeah sometimes i wonder if we are worth saving. why worry about important things and try to make a difference when most people are too fking stupid and lazy to pay attention to whats going on around them?

it's like living in a nation wide darwin award.

Luthien said:
How would people feel if instead of 12 Rugby League Players it was 12 Muslim men?
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depends if it was consensual or not
 
scanspeak said:
How would people feel if she was a 39 year old woman?
How would people feel if it was her and just 2 guys?
How would people feel if it was found that the group sex was her idea?
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It wasn't any of those scenarios so the questions are rather pointless. Were the guys coming through the bathroom window her idea too?
 
disarray said:
yeah sometimes i wonder if we are worth saving. why worry about important things and try to make a difference when most people are too fking stupid and lazy to pay attention to whats going on around them?

it's like living in a nation wide darwin award.
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Just belch, fart, have another tinnie and whatever you do dont clean your teeth. Welcome to Australia.
 
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