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Uncle Festivus

Uncle Festivus

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I experienced unusable slow internet speed yesterday from my provider, a sign of things to come? Rudnet can't come soon enough?

While the net itself will ultimately survive, Ritter said that waves of disruption would begin to emerge next year, when computers would jitter and freeze. This would be followed by “brownouts” – a combination of temporary freezing and computers being reduced to a slow speed.
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http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article6169488.ece
 
yeah right, and the world is flat, the sun orbits the earth and the moon is made of cheese.
 
Uncle Festivus said:
I experienced unusable slow internet speed yesterday from my provider, a sign of things to come? Rudnet can't come soon enough?
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G'Day Uncle Festivus,

Do you happen to be on cable? i occasionally experience the same thing.
Apparantly cable isn't as good as ADSL, which surprised me as i thought it was the other way round.
 
cutz said:
G'Day Uncle Festivus,

Do you happen to be on cable? i occasionally experience the same thing.
Apparantly cable isn't as good as ADSL, which surprised me as i thought it was the other way round.
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I'm on wireless through Cirrus Comms. Apparently their was a problem with a backbone provider?? which affected a few ISP's.

nulla, why do you doubt this could happen, considering the rate of take up and the type of bandwidth hungry data ie videos that is on the increase?
 
Uncle Festivus said:
nulla, why do you doubt this could happen, considering the rate of take up and the type of bandwidth hungry data ie videos that is on the increase?
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I'm already seeing it in my area, cable can't handle it when too many people on the street are downloading videos at once, about a month ago i had to revert to dial up it was so bad.
 
Over the past year or so I've experienced an increasing frequency of "freeze ups" with two separate internet connections, one broadband and the other dial-up. Different ISP's too.
 
Biggest problem for Australians is that there are only a couple of undersea cables to the rest of the world. I think there are a few more in the works.

Basically, most surfing done in Australia hits something on the other end of those cables, which carry a finite amount of data. You can have the fastest ISP plan in the country, but if you can't get a spot on the cable, you're SOL. This will get worse as broadband profiliates.

This filter thing will only hold things up on the Australian side, but it has the potential to hold things up a LOT, depending on the types of filtering they implement -- try image checking for flesh-toned colours in a HD video!
 
cutz said:
I'm already seeing it in my area, cable can't handle it when too many people on the street are downloading videos at once, about a month ago i had to revert to dial up it was so bad.
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If y'all would quit downloading illegal stuff there would be more bandwidth for us law abiding folk. :cowboy:

m.
 
Nah, i certainly keep my browsing to a minimum and finance related sites at that and I certainly don’t download videos, I prefer to go for a walk to the local video shop but it ticks me off how I sometimes i have to pay the price in the form of a slow connection.

Marklar, you seem to know your stuff, should i ditch cable altogether and switch to ADSL, or does ADSL also have the problems i mentioned previously?
 
cutz said:
Nah, i certainly keep my browsing to a minimum and finance related sites at that and I certainly don’t download videos, I prefer to go for a walk to the local video shop but it ticks me off how I sometimes i have to pay the price in the form of a slow connection.

Marklar, you seem to know your stuff, should i ditch cable altogether and switch to ADSL, or does ADSL also have the problems i mentioned previously?
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With adsl you get a dedicated line, no sharing. With cable you have to usually share the upstream channel (which means the things you send out to the world, like uploading videos etc.)

What are your current specification for cable, like Download/ Upload speeds and quotas? You can potentially get a 20MbpsDown/1MbpsUP with an ADSL2+, depending on the distance between the exchange and your house.
 
mayk said:
With adsl you get a dedicated line,
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back to the exchange/RIM
no sharing
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until you get to the exchange/RIM.

Marklar, you seem to know your stuff, should i ditch cable altogether and switch to ADSL, or does ADSL also have the problems i mentioned previously?
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They both have their problems, you'll probably get a bigger difference by switching ISPs than you will switching carriage type. Unfortunately with cable your ISP choices are rather limited, whereas with ADSL there is usually a lot more options.

Both mechanisms are designed to bias traffic towards the end user, hence you see 10Mb down & 1Mb up. Unfortunately TCP/IP isn't a unidirectional set of protocols, there is always traffic going back the other direction (connection handshake, acknowledgement packets, etc) and you can easily find the speed difference between the two limits the maximum bandwidth you can effectively use.

To give a practical example, in my apartment I can get ADSL2+ at 10Mb down, 1Mb up; if I switch to ADSL2+AnnexM I get 12Mb down, 768k up. The change in ratio made a few apps slower as they were limited by the 768k up bandwidth.

Ultimately it comes down to what your network traffic profile looks like. If it's mostly bittorrent you'll probably want to keep an eye on the upload bandwidth the ISP makes available to you, if it's mostly web browsing & youtube then whatever you can do to get a nice fat download pipe, if it's trading, voice and video conferencing you'll need minimum latency and jitter (ie. predictable performance)

m.
 
Solution: Ban internet pr0n

I bet the average monthly download would be at least 5-6 times less per person
 
Is anybody else getting extremely slow internet on Telstra cable inner Melbourne area? I’m wondering if its just me but the symptoms are on 2 computers.

>>EDIT BTW, i had this problem yesterday evening, i no longer ring up telstra tech support as they always insist the problem is at my end. I’m just about at wits end I can handle this problem occasionally but this is becoming ridicules, especially since I only chew through half my monthly quota.
 
cutz said:
Is anybody else getting extremely slow internet on Telstra cable inner Melbourne area? I’m wondering if its just me but the symptoms are on 2 computers.

>>EDIT BTW, i had this problem yesterday evening, i no longer ring up telstra tech support as they always insist the problem is at my end. I’m just about at wits end I can handle this problem occasionally but this is becoming ridicules, especially since I only chew through half my monthly quota.
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Check out the Whirlpool Forums. They are normally very good for Australian ISP issues. You should find out if others are having the same issue.
 
beamstas said:
Solution: Ban internet pr0n

I bet the average monthly download would be at least 5-6 times less per person
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HAHAHAHA! considering were #4 in the world that would make sense.:p:
keeping in mind these stats were a taken in 2005 I imagine it would have quadruple in size.

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maffu said:
Check out the Whirlpool Forums. They are normally very good for Australian ISP issues. You should find out if others are having the same issue.
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Thanks maffu,

I think i've hit the end of the line with telstra, 3rd day in a row, rang up tech support, they got me to do speed test via a telstra download which seemed to download O.K. but everything else is not O.K, iress is at a crawl, it took me 10min to roll a couple of contracts:eek::eek:
 
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