Can the Cats win the Flag?

[godzillaismad]

What do you think of playing Steven King in place for Mark Blake? Blakey had a shocker...

 

[2020hindsight]

like I know sfa about the game (played one game )
but I make this obtuse contribution to the thread.
anyone notice how the PM last night said
"yes this weekend I have to watch the Rugby League
and of course the Rugby Union
and the Cricket"
...
lol he forgot to remember the AFL - whatever lol
good luck Geelong
( I mean that city has done it tough for a long long time - in many respects )

 

[Bluesky]

What do you think of playing Steven King in place for Mark Blake? Blakey had a shocker...

King surely cant be denied his 1st Grand Final after so many years at the Cats. He will be in for sure. Ottens and King in ruck. Dont forget the VFL side is playing tomorrow in the Grand Final against Coburg and King is named to play. He has been in good form lately so a good performance should see him back in the 1st team next week.

Blakey should be on the bench, a good season for the youngster and deserves to named as well. 3 talls is a good idea i think as Port has one of the best in Lade and Brogans not too bad either. Should be a cracker but not as good as last night.

Go Cats

 

[AussiePaul72]

Hmmmmmmmm.........unfortunately not much of a game in Adelaide. IMHO I don't think the Roos turned up to play. They weren't on their game at all and a very ordinary performance. I feel sorry for them but unfortunately their inconsistency extremes came back to bite them. However they should be proud of making it this far considering the start to the season they had. They can play some very exciting footy and just need to improve the consistency and they will be a real threat for the flag next year. I was hoping the Roos made it to the grand final as i'd be happy for either Roos or the Cats to take the flag but now ........GO THE CATS!!!
Don't want to see Port take it out. They weren't tested at all today and next week might be a real shock for them. Remember the Cats also beat the Roos by a similar margin in week one of the finals 156-50. Also second last round saw a very close game between Cats and Port where Port took the money by only 5 points.
All in all shaping up for an awesome Grand Final........

 

[petervan]

Just got back from the game and see the Power now going in
to a grand final with nothing to lose attitude and the cats with the weight of the world on there shoulders.The big open spaces of the MCG are a favourite haunt of the mighty Power and see the cats choking on the big stage.We have for years had the mental edge over the fragile cats.Should be a great game and the boys should do it for the unfortunate Micheal Wilson. GOOOOO PORT.

 

[godzillaismad]

Should be a good game... not sure about playing three talls because of Port's speed and agility... Any words on Egan??

Well, one comment for Port's fans; did Williams said that one injury can derail the final campagne? Think that comment will come back to haunt Port with Wilson's injury... what comes around goes around!

GO CATS!

 

[tech/a]

I actually cant stand Port.

But I also cant stand the Vic attitude of we are the greatest at everything and you Nicked our Grandprix.

Power have the psychological wood on the cats.

If Geelong are good enough they will win.
If they have even the slightest doubt about their ability to finish off. Port will belt em!

If Port get to the front Geelong will be frustrated no end playing catchup---thats how I think it will go!

Victory over Collingwood would have been sweeter!

 

[2020hindsight]

tech -
I understand its been a few seasons since any Melb team were even represented in the Grand Final.

My m8 would argue like this ...
My m8 backs any team as long as it's not a Melb team lol
But You can't hold back the statistics forever - they will have to win one of these days
but if it has to be a Vic team - at least
make it Geelong
THen again - try telling someone from Geelong that they are from Melb lol

(note how I blame my m8 for this argument lol)

 

[tech/a]

Think the commentators have a lot to do with the perception.
Listening to a call from Commetti youd swear ANY Vic team 8 goals down were simply toying with the opposition.

If Geelong win the flag with a great pure performance of Aussi rules then they will deserve it.

If Port win I can do without the moronic gloating!
When over there for the 97 Crows win against St Kilda after the game we couldnt get served in a resteraunt.Melbourne was in morning and basically showed you the direction to the SA boarder.

 

[chops_a_must]

Think the commentators have a lot to do with the perception.
Listening to a call from Commetti youd swear ANY Vic team 8 goals down were simply toying with the opposition.

What the hell are you talking about?

Commetti is a sandgroper and an Eagles supporter.

 

[tech/a]

Wouldnt know it.
Didnt know it.

 

[Prospector]

Well, the only thing stopping me from supporting Geelong is the fact they are a Victorian team. If you people from Victoria could maybe take a step back and see how the commentators and other media think about the AFL, you would really understand how non Victorian teams feel about it.

Has a non-Victorian team ever been on the bottom of the ladder?
What percentage of Grand Finals have been won by a non-Victorian team since the inception of the AFL?
How many Brownlows have been won by a player not playing in a Victorian team?

Yet we still get comments like this one I heard last week "Playing for a Victorian Team is the ultimate AFL experience"

So while I quite like Geelong, Port Power is the way to go. Although I am so about the way the Crows threw their chances away!

 

[2020hindsight]

When over there for the 97 Crows win against St Kilda after the game we couldnt get served in a resteraunt.Melbourne was in morning and basically showed you the direction to the SA boarder.

direction of the border?
lol
you're speaking in riddles, but I think I follow lol

 

[Duckman#72]

If you people from Victoria could maybe take a step back and see how the commentators and other media think about the AFL, you would really understand how non Victorian teams feel about it.

Has a non-Victorian team ever been on the bottom of the ladder?
What percentage of Grand Finals have been won by a non-Victorian team since the inception of the AFL?
How many Brownlows have been won by a player not playing in a Victorian team?

Yet we still get comments like this one I heard last week "Playing for a Victorian Team is the ultimate AFL experience"

Hi Prospector

I'm writing this as a born New South Welshman, living in Queensland who thinks he's a Victorian.

Whether you like it or not Non-Victorian clubs have a culture and history that cannot be matched by interstate teams....full stop......cannot be argued. That is not to say they have better teams, or have better supporters, or have better players - I'm not having a go at the interstate teams, but 20 years of history in the AFL (sorry Port - yes you are the exception) does not match 100 plus years.

You have to have lived away from Vicotria to understand the comment......"Playing for a Victorian club is the ultimate AFL experience". While SA and WA would be very similar.....nothing matches Melbourne. The spirit of football is all pervading in Melbourne. It sits on every tram, walks down every footpath, commutes in every train, and wafts through every park. Come finals you can almost touch it oozing down the walls. South Australia and Western Australia come very close....but with all due respect they are not Melbourne.

As for Brisbane and Sydney - completely different towns and different culture. That is not to say the other clubs are better, or the other clubs supporters are more committed, or that there is no heart in Brisbane or Sydney. Definitely not. In fact the supporters from those clubs match it with anyone. BUT it is different.

Have you considered that it might be the non-Victorians who are biased? It works both ways - do you hate them or do they hate you? And who started hating each other first?

I must admit I don't always get the "State" parochial thing? Particularly living in Queensland. It is quite pathetic - if the grandfather, of the wife, of the strapper, of the winner of the Melbourne Cup once lived in Toowoomba - then the horse is "A Queenslander!!!!" So I'm not sticking up for Victoria - I'm just sticking up for the rich history of the original VFL clubs because remember.......after all if it wasn't for the Carlton's, Collingwood's and Melbourne's of the competition there wouldn't be an AFL.

Let the Victorians be happy about getting a team in the Grand Final - why shouldn't they be happy?

Duckman

 

[2020hindsight]

Duckman
as a Queenslander whose mother in law comes from NSW - call me a NS Welshman by marriage - I just want to say that I think Victorians are just plain mad.

Better make that sports-mad I guess - sounds more polite, lol.

I mean they get more people to see a State of Origin Rugby match ( NSW vs Qld) if they stage it in Melbourne than they do if they stage it in EITHER Sydney or Bris ??
bludy mad those Vics !! lol.

maybe I'll make an attempt to be ambivalent about the winner next week (long weekend to get over it yes ?

Like I usually call out if I find myself sitting amongst a lot of scarves of BOTH colours lol...

" raay for the good guys raaayyy
boooo for the bad guyss boo000"

As they say "an agnostic is a person who goes along next week, and doesn't care who wins" )
or maybe that's an atheist lol. -

AHHH the GAME will be the WINNER
Bring on the dancing cheerleaders !!

 

[Prospector]

Hiya Duckman,

My gosh, you really can call yourself a Vic then, coz you sound like one!:

Some quick research shows that the first football playing club in Victoria was formed in 1858, being Melbourne. Port Adelaide was formed in 1870, before St Kilda (1873), Essendon (1873), South Melbourne (1874) and Fitzroy (1883). Collingwood was a very late comer, being found in 1892! Norwood and Sturt, some might say being precursors to the Crows, were formed in and 1878 and 1891 respectively. West Torrens loosely formed in the 1870's. We have the history. So I will argue that one!

Were you in Adelaide when they won back-to-back premierships? The whole town rocked! For weeks. Has that EVER happened in Melbourne - nope; well, they wouldnt even know what it feels like to win a premiership in recent years AND they all hate each other any way, so while a portion of the community might celebrate, the majority would not! So we absolutely do breathe footy!

Of course the Vics should be happy about getting a team into the Grand Final, it is a rare event for them and should be treasured; and I suspect that Geelong might actually win. Which will make the Geelong fans happy, but do you really think Collingwood fans will be pleased? Well, actually, knowing Collingwood fans, maybe I should say rats .....

 

[2020hindsight]

Were you in Adelaide when they won back-to-back premierships? The whole town rocked! For weeks.

Of course the Vics should be happy about getting a team into the Grand Final, it is a rare event for them and should be treasured; and I suspect that Geelong might actually win. Which will make the Geelong fans happy

prospector ....
ok, Port v Geelong
City of Churches vs City of ... Factories?

whichever one wins it will be City of Inflated Bladders lol

as in Football Bladders of course .
good luck both
lol you AFL supporters sure add some colour to Aussie sport - and (unlike the soccer which can be a bit too err based- on-ethnicity) - minimum of biffo .
I've never been to see a game of AFL - but - I admire you all -

PS Having said that, I notice the women's soccer on tonight Matildas vs Brazil 9.50 pm SBS
and Wallabies at 10.00 pm on 10 sheesh

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/09/22/sports/AS-SPT-Australian-Rules-Football-Grand-Final.php

Geelong, Port Adelaide in Australian Rules grand final
The Associated PressPublished: September 22, 2007
MELBOURNE, Australia: The Geelong Cats are one game away from capping a most impressive season in Australian Rules football — and winning their first championship in 44 years.

The Cats advanced to the Sept. 29 grand final against Port Adelaide with a 13.14 (92) to 13.9 (87) win over Collingwood. Port Adelaide joined them in the Australian Football League title match with an easy 20.13 (133) to 5.16 (46) win over the Kangaroos on Saturday.

Geelong finished the regular season in first place with a record of 18 wins and four losses — 12 points ahead of second place Port Adelaide (15-7). But Port Adelaide is the only team to have beaten Geelong in the past five months.

On Friday, the Cats scraped past a stubborn Collingwood side before 98,002 fans at the Melbourne Cricket Ground — the biggest crowd at the stadium since the 2000 grand final between Essendon and Melbourne. That attendance mark will likely be surpassed for the grand final at the same ground.

The Cats are in their first grand final since 1995. The team, based in the port city of Geelong about an hour's drive southwest of Melbourne, has a strong chance to win its first league title since 1963.

Cats coach Mark Thompson said some of his players might have been complacent after having a bye last weekend following a win in the first round of the playoffs.

"The problem with having the week off ... is that there's a possible chance that some players would think they would win this game before they'd actually won it," Thompson said.

"I'm expecting us to be a lot better next week with our approach to the game. We're not having to sit around for 13 days waiting to play."

On Saturday, Port Adelaide dominated throughout, leading by 22 points at halftime and extending it to nearly 80 at the end of the third quarter. Port kicked seven goals to the Kangaroos' one in the third quarter — six of them in 11 minutes.

 

[Rafa]

after all if it wasn't for the Carlton's, Collingwood's and Melbourne's of the competition there wouldn't be an AFL.

If it wasn't for the insterstate teams, there wouldn't be Melbourne, Hawthorn, North Melbourne, St Kilda at the very least, and even Carlton and Richmond look shaky....

The AFL was only started cause the VFL was going bankrupt...
Interstate clubs paid mega bucks of royalties to the AFL which goes to underwriting disfunctional victorian VFL clubs...

Regardles, 10 teams in Victoria is unsustainable...
needs to be reduced to 8 at the very least.
But all comps have to start somewhere...

 

[2020hindsight]

Regardles, 10 teams in Victoria is unsustainable...
needs to be reduced to 8 at the very least...

Rafa
at the very least ?
or the very most ?
sorry pedantry is contagious lol.

 

[Rafa]

Rafa
at the very least ?
or the very most ?
sorry pedantry is contagious lol.

good question...

given i am talking about reducing from 10 to 8... maybe the very least makes sense... but yeah... i'm open to suggestions re the correct wording

i think 8 vic clubs will make for a stronger victorian comp, plus gives the likes of tassie and maybe either canberra or gold coast a chance for a team.