The ScoMo Government

[IFocus]

I suppose now Trump's gone, you have to move on to someone else.
It will be interesting to see when Labor get in, if they stop the ATO from computer benchmarking and data matching, I think not.
By the way, people died from pink batts and I forked out for batts and robo debt go figure.
Maybe it was a shame pork barreling went on then, rather than jobseeker and jobkeeper, no it was shonky school canteens and fly by night batt installers.
But hey let's forget the history.lol
Talk about lack of gratitude and tribal politics, luckily you will get what you sow IMO.

You have lost the plot SP nothing to do with Trump the current Morrison government is beset with major compromisers regarding pork barrelling and inadept ministers.

You equate pink batts with Robo debt?

How so? One is a benefit the other persecution of our county's weakest and most vulnerable to add to the criminality it was to fund pork barrelling for marginal seats.

And if deaths is your gauge many more died as a result of Robo debt.

Its not tribal, the questions fail to be addressed.

 

[sptrawler]

You have lost the plot SP nothing to do with Trump the current Morrison government is beset with major compromisers regarding pork barrelling and inadept ministers.

You equate pink batts with Robo debt?

How so? One is a benefit the other persecution of our county's weakest and most vulnerable to add to the criminality it was to fund pork barrelling for marginal seats.

And if deaths is your gauge many more died as a result of Robo debt.

Its not tribal, the questions fail to be addressed.

What I dislike is cherry picking stupid incidence that could well have happened to either party, then using it to undermine any government of either persuasion, as technology improves AI will be used.
When it fails there is a cost, it is stupid to think one party will fall victim to it.
Jeez I could write a book on the shonky $hit that W.A inc got up to.
It really is time IMO, that people started viewing politics, as they do investing unemotionaly.
To put it another way, you and I agree Barny did a good job with W.A, he faught for a fair share of gst, but got no backing from Labor.
He was told to shut up and stop whinging, yet Labor started bitching about it as soon as the stained office.
He got on with the job, despite constant criticism and built infrastructure that W.A had been begging for years.
Now when he has gone the benefits are basically credited to McGowan, yet he criticized Barnett endlessly.
Now McGowan takes all the credit for Barnett's work and he is actually building on it, which is great.
Now back to Morison, the spend that has been done to help Australia over this problem is unbelievable, yet when it started you were comparing it to the great job Rudd did during the GfC, now instantly it is looking like is over and normality is returning, it is back to bagging Morisson.
Sorry it just does my head in, there is no way that any credit will be given by the left untill we are all on welfare IMO.
It's over and out from me. Get on with it commrade as you sit there on the balcony watching the sunset in the west.

 

[moXJO]

You have lost the plot SP nothing to do with Trump the current Morrison government is beset with major compromisers regarding pork barrelling and inadept ministers.

You equate pink batts with Robo debt?

How so? One is a benefit the other persecution of our county's weakest and most vulnerable to add to the criminality it was to fund pork barrelling for marginal seats.

And if deaths is your gauge many more died as a result of Robo debt.

Its not tribal, the questions fail to be addressed.

Morrison is a mixed bag.
The robodebt was one of the more disgusting things to come out.
However it was the Gillard government to bring out the automated software I thought and Turnbull govt implemented the scheme?

I'm not blaming Labor, pointing out they started the cross checks, or something. Libs weaponized it.

I dislike a lot Morrison has done. From net neutrality, stomping on rights.
His plus side was he handled covid pretty well. The job keeper and seeker were pretty good. It made me rethink universal basic income.

Internationally I'm still deciding. I'd say the next 12 months will be telling.

 

[sptrawler]

Morrison is a mixed bag.
The robodebt was one of the more disgusting things to come out.
However it was the Gillard government to bring out the automated software I thought and Turnbull govt implemented the scheme?

I'm not blaming Labor, pointing out they started the cross checks, or something. Libs weaponized it.

I dislike a lot Morrison has done. From net neutrality, stomping on rights.
His plus side was he handled covid pretty well. The job keeper and seeker were pretty good. It made me rethink universal basic income.

Internationally I'm still deciding. I'd say the next 12 months will be telling.

The robo debt won't go away, I received a letter today from the ATO, that I'm sure is computer generated and I know if I don't sort it there will be a problem.
That is the way the world is going, my letter is to do with the SMSF and I will sort it.
As a Government they can't keep dropping taxes, supply the same services and not use AI to find who is dodging tax.
I was a project supervisor and to keep dropping the prices, you had to tighten up on the leakage, it is just good management
I could always ignore the letter and hope it is written off in a few years, but as I did with my daughter's debt, I quiried it, challenged it, then paid it.
I didn't think it was fair, but it was right, so I paid it and moved on.

So let's put it another way, what is Also and Labor offering? A guarantee to not allow the ATO to benchmark, datamatch and computer generated queries?
I don't think so.lol

 

[IFocus]

Gents Robo debt was started by Morrison no one else.

It was totally flawed from the start as well as illegal. The governments own communications shown this was known from the start.

It was a totally stand alone scheme.

The government paid out a fortune in compensation to stop the court case revealing just how bad it was.

Real people died as a consequence, Australia's most vulnerable and powerless.

I am not aware of any other event by any other Australian government State or Federal that compares.

 

[moXJO]

The robo debt won't go away, I received a letter today from the ATO, that I'm sure is computer generated and I know if I don't sort it there will be a problem.
That is the way the world is going, my letter is to do with the SMSF and I will sort it.
As a Government they can't keep dropping taxes, supply the same services and not use AI to find who is dodging tax.
I was a project supervisor and to keep dropping the prices, you had to tighten up on the leakage, it is just good management
I could always ignore the letter and hope it is written off in a few years, but as I did with my daughter's debt, I quiried it, challenged it, then paid it.
I didn't think it was fair, but it was right, so I paid it and moved on.

So let's put it another way, what is Also and Labor offering?

Im not sold on super efficient systems when it comes to government. Eg there is a large cash underground for international students. Yeah you can stamp out cash. But that cash was splashing round the system in positive ways. Students have limited ways to fund themselves in the first place. They buy from businesses local. Doing jobs no one here really want to do.

I'm not sold on government being efficient on taking our money. Yet spend and waste with little thought of who suffered for that dollar.

 

[moXJO]

Gents Robo debt was started by Morrison no one else.

It was totally flawed from the start as well as illegal. The governments own communications shown this was known from the start.

It was a totally stand alone scheme.

The government paid out a fortune in compensation to stop the court case revealing just how bad it was.

Real people died as a consequence, Australia's most vulnerable and powerless.

I am not aware of any other event by any other Australian government State or Federal that compares.

I'll take your word for it. Wouldn't surprise me to tell you the truth. I thought it was a disgusting way to cause people stress. If you are poor and being hounded with threats of losing the little you have, it would be horrific.

Labor needs to man up to a credible alternative. Not some PC limpwristed fantasy hug fest. Lose half your front bench. The right faction actually showed a bit of promise.

 

[sptrawler]

Gents Robo debt was started by Morrison no one else.

It was totally flawed from the start as well as illegal. The governments own communications shown this was known from the start.

It was a totally stand alone scheme.

The government paid out a fortune in compensation to stop the court case revealing just how bad it was.

Real people died as a consequence, Australia's most vulnerable and powerless.

I am not aware of any other event by any other Australian government State or Federal that compares.

Well I must check up and see if I can get back the $6k I paid, because they said my deaf and disabled Daughter was overpaid single parent pension, when she had them by IVF and apparently didn't report her income correctly.

 

[IFocus]

I'll take your word for it. Wouldn't surprise me to tell you the truth. I thought it was a disgusting way to cause people stress. If you are poor and being hounded with threats of losing the little you have, it would be horrific.

Labor needs to man up to a credible alternative. Not some PC limpwristed fantasy hug fest. Lose half your front bench. The right faction actually showed a bit of promise.

Labor have been very weak against Morrison who by far has been better at the look / game of politics, I wouldn't be surprised to see Morrison win another term.

 

[IFocus]

Well I must check up and see if I can get back the $6k I paid, because they said my deaf and disabled Daughter was overpaid single parent pension, when she had them by IVF and apparently didn't report her income correctly.

SP you should follow up there is not only backpay back for wrongful payments but also compensation, good luck hope you have a win.

 

[sptrawler]

I don't think so, the repayment request came in 2018, for overpayments from 2013 to 2015, my daughter had all her payslips and sent them in.
The problem related to her not reporting her pay every payday, she was meant to phone them in, but she can't use a phone as she is deaf and as she worked, could attend Centrelink also Centrelink had no SMS facility.
She thought as per her family tax benefit, it was done through her group certificate, in 2015 they introduced an app so she could enter her info.
Then in 2018 she was busted for $6k from 2013 to 2015, suck it up princess, it is shame she works, she has enough challenges to have been on disability all her life, then she would be classed as special and could have sat in Centrelink all day to report. But that isn't her.
It's a weird world we live in. IMO

 

[wayneL]

I don't think so, the repayment request came in 2018, for overpayments from 2013 to 2015, my daughter had all her payslips and sent them in.
The problem related to her not reporting her pay every payday, she was meant to phone them in, but she can't use a phone as she is deaf and as she worked, could attend Centrelink also Centrelink had no SMS facility.
She thought as per her family tax benefit, it was done through her group certificate, in 2015 they introduced an app so she could enter her info.
Then in 2018 she was busted for $6k from 2013 to 2015, suck it up princess, it is shame she works, she has enough challenges to have been on disability all her life, then she would be classed as special and could have sat in Centrelink all day to report. But that isn't her.
It's a weird world we live in. IMO

That is truly ****ed up man.

Governments demand laser like accuracy in reporting everything under threat of stiff penalty, yet are profligate, wasteful and corrupt themselves.

And you know what? I'd bet it wouldn't even pay off electorally if any of the parties did clean up their act... Just how politics is played.

It's just bollox.

 

[sptrawler]

That is truly ****ed up man.

Governments demand laser like accuracy in reporting everything under threat of stiff penalty, yet are profligate, wasteful and corrupt themselves.

And you know what? I'd bet it wouldn't even pay off electorally if any of the parties did clean up their act... Just how politics is played.

It's just bollox.

Yes the really annoying part is, she would have done the reporting correcly if she had been told, she takes great pride in paying her own way.
It was just when she originally applied for assistance, she had just had her first child through IVF, had no partner and lived on her own. So being deaf and being overwhelmed with info, she just didnt understand the reporting for family tax benefit and single parent assistance was different.
Another problem she had with centerlink was, because she couldnt name the father, they wouldnt help her with childcare, so it was costing her just about as much for childcare, as she was earning.
I had to eventually get authority to speak on her behalf and read them the riot act.
She hated it because she likes to be independent, but deaf people find it hard to get the information correct and also to explain themselves. Anyway the ATO was correct abut the overpayment, but I felt thet were remiss in not following up initially to ensure she understood the proceedure and was reporting correctly. It was a bit rich to hit her years later. But thats life with the ATO.

 

[sptrawler]

I did like the sound of the hypersonic weapons, now that's what we need and lots of them, cancel the subs and buy more hypersonic misiles.
Actually talking about the diesel subs, they will have to be able to be shut down while travelling, so our new super duper underwater listening device can hear something.

Well someone must read ASF, hypersonic weapon testing comes back to Woomera.?

NoCookies | The Australian

www.theaustralian.com.au

And a couple of historic flights.

Hypersonic flight tests successful

The Defence, Science and Technology (DST) Group and US Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) have successfully completed experimental hypersonic flights tests at the Woomera Test Range. Minister fo

www.defenceconnect.com.au

Bullet-shaped scramjet put to the test › News in Science (ABC Science)

www.abc.net.au

 

[IFocus]

This is priceless

Brenda the Civil Disobedience Penguin on Mathias Cormann's OECD application: HE WHAT?! | First Dog on the Moon

Cormann is gleefully spouting his (newly discovered) green credentials while flying in a private taxpayer-funded jet around Europe

www.theguardian.com

 

[moXJO]

Well someone must read ASF, hypersonic weapon testing comes back to Woomera.?

NoCookies | The Australian

www.theaustralian.com.au

And a couple of historic flights.

Hypersonic flight tests successful

The Defence, Science and Technology (DST) Group and US Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) have successfully completed experimental hypersonic flights tests at the Woomera Test Range. Minister fo

www.defenceconnect.com.au

Bullet-shaped scramjet put to the test › News in Science (ABC Science)

www.abc.net.au

We need hundreds of these to keep China off our arse.

 

[sptrawler]

Are we starting to see the fresh shoots, of media surgery starting on Scomo?
Nice picture of Scott, chumming it up with the devil, to lead the story.?

Scott Morrison suggests Donald Trump’s comments before US Capitol riot were ‘incredibly disappointing’

Australian prime minister laments ‘things that were said’ to encourage Capitol Hill mob but says it’s not for him to lecture anybody

www.theguardian.com

 

[PZ99]

I'm betting a lazy bitcoin that ScoMo will get 3 terms unless he brings back workchoices or anything the equivalent thereof

 

[sptrawler]

I'm betting a lazy bitcoin that ScoMo will get 3 terms unless he brings back workchoices or anything the equivalent thereof

Interesting call, I tend to think the media will start and undermine him, but the real problem the media has is the alternative isn't obvious at the moment.

 

[wayneL]

I still can't find anything The God Emporer said to incite anything, and certainly less than the other side which was inviting violence for months prior.