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Victorian domestic violence royal commission begins first day of public hearings in Melbourne

Victoria's Royal Commission into Family Violence begins holding public hearings in Melbourne today, with Victoria Police and at least one family violence victim to appear on the first day.

The Victorian Government established the royal commission earlier this year, describing family violence as a national emergency.

It is estimated to cost the state $3.4 billion a year.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-13/domestic-violence-royal-commission-first-day/6614308

http://www.abc.net.au/news/topic/domestic-violence

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I mentioned this a while back

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/f...t=2942&page=23&p=862149&viewfull=1#post862149

Daniel Andrews has opened a Royal Commission on Domestic Violence in Victoria.

Daniel Andrews has vowed to jail family violence thugs, make intervention orders easier to get and enforce tough new laws to make women and children safe.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...-family-violence/story-fni0fit3-1227236220664

Supposedly it was run on the ABC as well, on Q and A.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/na...omestic-violence/story-fni0xqrb-1227236263041

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Any thoughts?
 
Re: Domestic Violence - Royal Commission in Vic.

At least they are spending our money on something that really affects people, not on a political witch hunt.

We need to change society from a alcohol/macho based one to something more intelligent and thoughtful.

Reducing the good old drinking mate theme by removing all alcohol ads from TV, radio and publications would be a start as most DV incidents are alcohol related.
 
Re: Domestic Violence - Royal Commission in Vic.

Yup, well the epidemic that is male violence against women in this country certainly needs addressing. I think this year there has already been over 40 women murdered by men related to them.

Its certainly a much bigger threat in this country than terrorism, despite the fear and loathing campaign run by the current morons 'running' the country.

It should be a national priority to understand and address the horrific scale of violence against women in Australia.

At least Victoria is showing some leadeship in starting a royal commission, but I doubt the Minister for Women, aka the Mad Monk, will have any interest in addressing this issue, too busy whipping up scare campaigns about refugees and his so called 'death cults'.
 
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SirRumpole said:
At least they are spending our money on something that really affects people, not on a political witch hunt.

We need to change society from a alcohol/macho based one to something more intelligent and thoughtful.

Reducing the good old drinking mate theme by removing all alcohol ads from TV, radio and publications would be a start as most DV incidents are alcohol related.
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There was a good article - http://www.traveller.com.au/australia-the-land-of-the-idiot-gi36oy

They had the same experience I did in Germany where people consume alcohol and don't kill people. Amazing.

There's something wrong in this country where alcohol leads to violence. It just doesn't seem to happen in Europe to the same extent. Maybe it's an Anglo issue since the UK seems to have a problem with drunken rioting, and you get plenty of alcohol related violence in the USA too.

We have some of the highest alchol taxes in the world, yet some of the worst alcohol related problems too. High taxes don't work like the Govt says it does.

Wandering around the red light area of Shinjuku in Tokyo I was amazed at how much of a social area it is. Plenty of groups of friends out drinking , multi story 24 hour karaoke bars, great local places to eat, yet there was no unsociable behaviour, even at 3am. This in a country that sells alcohol in vending machines, where beer is probably cheaper than evian.

There is something seriously wrong with Australian culture when it involves alcohol.
 
Re: Domestic Violence - Royal Commission in Vic.

sydboy007 said:
There is something seriously wrong with Australian culture when it involves alcohol.
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I think our alcohol problem is equatable to the American's gun problem. We both consider these two products our "right" to use and abuse empowered by the US Constitution in the gun case, and by our larrikan anti authoritarian convict, Rum Rebellion background.

As both addictions have a long historical background, they will hard to overcome, with plenty of opposition from vested interests.
 
Re: Domestic Violence - Royal Commission in Vic.

I recall being stopped in my tracks when I first witnessed domestic violence being played out in front of me at a girlfriend's home. I new it would escalate into something more horrifying so I jumped in and manhandled the father. This wife abuse was a violation of my beliefs and insulting to my sense of male responsibility.

I was brought up in a home with a grandfather who spoke very little, commanded great respect locally and nationally, had incredible brute strength and a displayed Scottish seriousness. He was my male role model growing up and never, ever was there any misogyny, verbal abuse, even arguments for that matter, he just took orders from Grandma and did what he knew had to be done and enjoyed some pre dinner drinks down the pub every weeknight with lads.

Similarly I treated my wife as an equal and enjoyed a wonderful union. Why a man would sabotage the trust as a protector and friend in favour of displaying a weak mind to a wife and kids is puzzling, but perhaps arrested development and emotional paralysis is in play.

Of course the one thing that always surfaces as excuse is "blame" for something that normal men would let go through to the keeper.
 
Domestic violence, also called intimate partner violence, happens in many forms including physical, emotional and economic violence, and can affect people of any age.
It does not have to be within the home to be classified as domestic violence.
It is a form of violence that can occur within any relationship (family or intimate partner).

Domestic violence is about power and control and there are many ways this control can be expressed.

Domestic violence and emotional abuse are behaviors used by one person in a relationship to control the other.
Partners may be married or not married; heterosexual, gay, or lesbian; living together, separated or dating.


Galumay, before pointing fingers, Labor should look in their own backyard, and clean out their mess of power and violence, what we have been seeing.

Violence comes in many forms.

I don't have a story to tell, but Julia did, which is included in the link.

My gripe with this is having my say, and being knocked down by the femenazis.
I hope this doesn't turn out to be another man hating fest.

Syd, yes, we have been through this about alcohol and the knee jerk reaction, we now have problems with drugs -- ice to be precise.

I have often commented about the elderly, and how come we are seeing violence towards them, which I don't remember ever happening before in my lifetime.

Just my thoughts..
 
Tink said:


Galumay, before pointing fingers, Labor should look in their own backyard, and clean out their mess of power and violence, what we have been seeing.
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What the .... ?

Pretty disgusting tactic politicising this issue considering it was the Labor government in Victoria that set up this Commission.

Very disappointed in you Tink for blatant politicising of an issue that affects a lot of people and is not the fault of any political party.
 
Well maybe galomay should think before he posts.

but I doubt the Minister for Women, aka the Mad Monk, will have any interest in addressing this issue.
 
Tink said:
Galumay, before pointing fingers, Labor should look in their own backyard, and clean out their mess of power and violence, what we have been seeing.
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Umm...not sure how you make that leap in logic! You seem very confused, I was simply pointing out the current government's obsession with fear mongering around terrorists and refugees whilst we have an epidemic of violence against women by men. I didnt say the current government caused the violence against women - which you seem to infer - I said they were not doing anything about it.

Over 40 women murdered this year alone - let that sink in and think about how serious a problem that is in real terms. Not to mention the thousands assaulted and bashed.

As pointed out its an ALP government that set the inquiry up, I dont see much leadership coming from the ALP at a federal level on this epidemic of violence though. None the less what on earth your comment about the ALP and power and violence is about I have no idea. I have yet to see a political party that wasnt about power. Not sure how a party could be violent, some of it's policies might have violent intent i suppose, like invading Iraq.

My gripe with this is having my say, and being knocked down by the femenazis.
I hope this doesn't turn out to be another man hating fest.
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Well its not about hating, primarily its about killing and its about men killing women, if you skirt around that then nothing will be addressed. Men are killing their, wives, de factos and girlfriends at an astounding rate. Calling people names because they want to do something to try to stop this epidemic is not going to help.
 
Tink said:
Well maybe galomay should think before he posts.

but I doubt the Minister for Women, aka the Mad Monk, will have any interest in addressing this issue.
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Surprise surprise I disagree Tink, Galomays point was pertinent its a Australia wide issue with plenty of twists and turns alcohol, various cultures etc and there is a problem in this country where males bash and kill women.

It should have been a federal government that run it given 2 women die every week nation wide.

The Vics are always ahead of the game Australia wide with their standards good on them for this initiative.
 
OK, I could answer a few things, but I won't take this to politics.

We can all sit down and work out why we have violence in our culture.

I can only speak for myself, and what I see -- and like Tisme, I have had wonderful male role models around me.
Actually both, good male and female role models.

That is not taking away from what women may be experiencing, as I wrote in the link.

Is it the lack of good father figures in these children's lives?

So what is your answer, Rumpole, galomay, Ifocus, and others?

How do we deal with this violence in our culture?
 
Tink said:
So what is your answer, Rumpole, galomay, Ifocus, and others?

How do we deal with this violence in our culture?
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I've already given one possibility, downgrade the influence of alcohol in society as was done with cigarettes, and be prepared for a massive backlash from the alcohol companies, pubs, clubs, bottle shops and supermarkets.
 
The influence of a good role model and community support/standards is under-rated. Celia Lashlie noted this and worked towards it - see the link below. Being orphaned at a very early age statistically i should have been in trouble with the Police and maybe ended up in prison. But I was lucky with role models and support, as are many others.

Behaviour in the home shapes behaviour. Our kids told us that when at school (year 12) they were almost on thier own in that they had never seen their parents drunk. So excess alcohol consumption wasn't a norm. Yes they tried it & it was few & far between re over-indulgence. I believe this to be a significant/major influence.

We'll never know if the rate is more now than, say, 50 years ago due to under-reporting & stigma back then. In order to know if we're making progress. Because zero is what it should be.

Excess boozing is also "glorified" in corporate circles. My stance on not over-consuming & being a jackass has cost me re advancement but that's their problem. But it has been interesting to see true personalities emerge - and some of them would be controlling & manipulative at home.

Re alcohol advertising - do these countries that don't "misuse the booze" have less advertising? I suspect it's something far deeper than ads, for alcohol is freely available.

http://www.celialashlie.co.nz/celia-says/boys-work/the-importance-of-laughter
 
Yet another tragedy in the ongoing domestic violence problem.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-...r-murder-of-missing-woman-jody-meyers/6804018

We see a lot more money going into this area for refuges , home security and other after the fact measures aimed at making women and children safer, which is obviously needed.

Can preventative measures be taken before relationships go too far ?

Psychological tests are available that can indicate a propensity to commit violence, as well as giving an insight into peoples motivations, thinking patterns, hopes, desires , fears etc.

Of course you can't force people to take such tests but maybe prospective couples could be encouraged to do them.

Even if no propensity for violence is found, an insight into a partners character may help the relationship down the track.
 
Elder abuse: calls for zero tolerance on adult children attacking parents

Elder abuse needs to be considered another form of domestic violence, a panel has heard.

Adult children are the most common perpetrators of violence, emotional damage or *financial abuse towards their elderly parents, who are more vulnerable when their children are chronic gamblers or have a substance addiction.

“The community ought to respect all older people, and we should have a zero tolerance for elder abuse.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...ttacking-parents/story-fni0fit3-1227568148332

I have mentioned this before -- when have we ever seen this, that the elderly are bashed, robbed etc, in society, not just within families?

Respect for the elderly was always a part of our society...

The most vulnerable, the elderly and the children.

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Just adding a couple of articles that were lost in the other thread, regarding domestic violence.

For some intelligent commentary on the causes of family violence, take the time to listen to this (or the transcript might be up by now)
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2015/s4188092.htm


https://www.aussiestockforums.com/f...t=2942&page=24&p=862562&viewfull=1#post862562
 
SirRumpole said:
Gays aren't saints when it comes to domestic violence.




http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-12/lgbt-domestic-violence-revolutionary-programs/9978680
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Jealousy, betrayal and control. Hard feeling to subdue, especially when considering 80% of all our decisions are made emotionally.

I'm not sure any commission is going to come up with any solutions unless they have a hard look at how the family law acts currently discriminate without regard to all parties having a sense of satisfaction. I wonder how many of those grubs who killed their children to deny their ex partner would have gone down that path if they were adequately counselled and encouraged to think objectively of the good for the future.
 
Tisme said:
Jealousy, betrayal and control. Hard feeling to subdue, especially when considering 80% of all our decisions are made emotionally.

I'm not sure any commission is going to come up with any solutions unless they have a hard look at how the family law acts currently discriminate without regard to all parties having a sense of satisfaction. I wonder how many of those grubs who killed their children to deny their ex partner would have gone down that path if they were adequately counselled and encouraged to think objectively of the good for the future.
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Yes, it does seem that some child murderers may have been driven over the edge by a one sided court system, possibly manipulated by one partner.
 

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