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Since you don't trade exclusively off charts [I don't either], maybe forming a view on volatility might be of use to you.
I'm heartened to hear that this approach is plausible. It sounds like an approach that I can attempt.I prefer to trade as a risk manager, managing my positions as threats to my personal risk comfort zone approaches & making adjustments using the greeks. I know that sounds broad & quite vague but it's pretty much it.
Good advice. I'll add that to my personal training notes.As a further comment, those bid/ask spreads can be a killer when trading like this. Markets with wider spreads should be avoided or traded in a different way.
Aside from the daylight hours, I see positives in trading Aussie options. It is a bit like learning how to drive. If you can pass and survive driving in crazy cities like Bangkok, then driving in sleepy ole Perth will be a breeze. Likewise, surviving Oz will make the US seem like a walk in the park, I would imagine/hope.I chose to do my options learning in the Oz market due to it being daylight hours, but certainly paid a high price in fees for the privilege.
Yikes! Mental note to self: Close out positions before expiry.... IB only give the first 10 minutes to close the assigned position out before they start randomly closing out positions in the account which may or may not have a thing to do with the assigned position.
Thanks for the tips re. T/A. I'll keep the name FrankD in mind when I get a chance to investigate T/A further. Can I ask what 'D' in 'FrankD' is? Thanks.Although I have had a bit of T/A training over the years, I find I am really not much better than 50/50 in picking direction. I have found FrankD's ebook quite helpful and using his larger timeframe levels for option adjustments has worked reasonably well especially when they cluster with other T/A such as fib levels, range repeats, volume analysis, etc. Frank goes into a lot more than just his basic levels in his ebook, but personally, I found the basic, longer term levels a useful tool for me. I also watch put/call ratios for extremes together with unusually large turnover. I also often incorporate some basic time analysis - I did start a thread on it some time ago, but haven't had the time to keep it up. Time analysis can be quite labour intensive and doesn't always work.
Volatility is a part of the options frontier that I will have to confront. I have been putting it off but at some point, I know that I will need to know more. Right now, I have not reached a point to ask decent questions yet.Since you don't trade exclusively off charts [I don't either], maybe forming a view on volatility might be of use to you.
..Yikes! Mental note to self: Close out positions before expiry.
Thanks for the tips re. T/A. I'll keep the name FrankD in mind when I get a chance to investigate T/A further. Can I ask what 'D' in 'FrankD' is? Thanks.
What I don't understand yet, is, how to determine when that reversion to the mean will occur.
27%/sqrt(52) = 3.74%.
3.74% * $50 = $1.87.
Correction to my previous post ... I meant "4 out of 12".Not the 3 out of 12 that I had expected.
Bungle #5: Fooled By Volatility
Option volatility takes no account of the trendiness of the underlying instrument however.
Let say instrument (a) moves 1% up and 1% down alternately for 20 days in a row, but instrument (b) moves up 0.5% every day for twenty days.
Instrument (a) finishes very close to where it started, hardly any nett movement at all, yet (b) is up over 10% higher after the 20 days.
According to the option volatility formula, the volatility measured over this time frame is much higher for (a) than for (b).
But depending on your precise option positions (b) could probably *feel* a lot more volatile than (a).
Wayne, I really appreciate your insights into low prob flies/ICs. The "hands on" experience that you are sharing will never make it to option text books and someone like me will have a slim chance of knowing them. Your positive experiences with these strategies gives me confidence that they are viable.I used to take some losses on my high prob condors, but so far have not had a loss on the low prob variety (it will come one day I'm sure). Total risk is also much lower in the low-prob variety in the event of a black swan.
Being a non-mathematician myself as well, my humble opinion is that the problem stems from the fact that sigma is derived from magnitude of price movements. Direction of movements are not factored in. Therefore up,up,up,up vs. up,down,up,down movements are (incorrectly) given equal weight when determining sigma. Much like EWMA is better modelled with appropriate weights, as compared with standard HV calculations. (Thanks Mazza, for pointing that out)Witness low volatility (as measured) trends that can move one helluva a long way in any number of instruments; the grinding upward move that can go 20% or so as you watch statistical volatility sliding the slippery slope to historic lows.
But there is a problem at the heart of the way volatility is calculated which makes it unsuitable for this purpose, viz, the annualized standard deviation of logarithmic daily change in price.
Being a non-mathematician myself as well, my humble opinion is that the problem stems from the fact that sigma is derived from magnitude of price movements. Direction of movements are not factored in. Therefore up,up,up,up vs. up,down,up,down movements are (incorrectly) given equal weight when determining sigma
I'm currently half way through Natenberg. His view is biased towards the theoretical ie. unless you identify market discrepancies in option pricing, you will not have a mathematical "edge". That idea does appeal to me, as I like to take comfort that there is a mathematical basis to being profitable in this game, much like card counting is to blackjack.
On the other hand, I also like to believe that option theory has its loopholes. Your take on volatilities is one such example. Comments from Grinder and Sails also indicate this to be the case. They talk about managing the greeks as being their "edge". I would like to prove to myself that this management "edge" is real. In my case, only time and practice will tell.
Whether the "edge" is mathematical, management (human) or due to deficiencies in option theory (or perhaps all 3), I'm just glad that there are real players out there, who are able to profit from them.
Mazza, Your idea of profiling (see above) lead me to think that comparingTry profiling price 'behaviour' by quoting price changes in sigma units.
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Daily(30) 23.0 23.4
Weekly(10) 23.3 30.7
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As above, daily frequency of close-to-close hv, causes sampling errors [small sample] or irrelevant info incl. [large sample].
Improvements via high frequency data [expensive for retail] or estimates that incl. combos of OHLC e.g. Parkinson, Garman Klass
Try profiling price 'behaviour' by quoting price changes in sigma units. E.g. XYZ & ABC stat vol =50%.
Most price changes [up/down] of XYZ [=/<]2 sigmas. ABC price changes are primarily [=/<] 1 sigma, but monthly has moves > 4 sigma.
Range plays are > suitable for XYZ than ABC [appears better to be long gamma/vega] despite annualized stat vol of both being 50%. [Independent of other analysis]
Ah! now I understand where you user name Grinder comes from!letting theta grind out the profits.
a. HV calculated using daily gains VS
b. HV calculated using weekly gains
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